Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jun 2012 10:12 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Only a few more hours until the last of the big three has its big event (Google i/o, after WWDC and Microsoft's Surface and WP8 events). They will most likely announce a Nexus tablet, as well as Android 4.1, Jelly Bean. While many of you are still on Gingerbread with your top-of-the-line phones - let me poke a few eyes out with mikegapinski's Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich port... To the Samsung Wave. Dual-booting Bada 2 and ICS, right here.
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RE[2]: Comment by avgalen
by avgalen on Wed 27th Jun 2012 12:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by avgalen"
avgalen
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2010-09-23

I completely agree. These are actually all great examples of "what openness looks like" and they have changed the (software)world.

I am not complaining about this project. It is a nice hobby-project that some people will learn a lot from and that will give some other people a good time playing around with another OS.

I am complaining about picking this as an example of what openness looks like. Because if we would show people this example they would all turn their back on openness and say "closed gives us working stuff, open is far inferior".

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RE[3]: Comment by avgalen
by MOS6510 on Wed 27th Jun 2012 13:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by avgalen"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

And I agree even more completely.

The average customer will start to associate "open" with "not working". Right now they think "open" means "you can install stuff without paying for it, hahaha".

And if non-working stuff like this gets praised people might even believe that this result is like reaching the top of Mount Everest: that's it, it can't get any better.

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RE[4]: Comment by avgalen
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 27th Jun 2012 13:56 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by avgalen"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Yes, because OSNews is totally a site for those "average customers".

We're a geek site, and you guys know this. This is such a non-discussion, which seems more born out of a dislike for Android than anything else.

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RE[4]: Comment by avgalen
by phoudoin on Wed 27th Jun 2012 15:59 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by avgalen"
phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

The average customer will start to associate "open" with "not working".


Only if open projects start to not working more and more. And why such thing will happens now more than yesterday?
Plus the avergae customer barely knows what's open and what's not.

Right now they think "open" means "you can install stuff without paying for it, hahaha".


Precisely. The average customer don't care about open, closed, what he care is price/feature ratio.
Except if open projects starts to have less and less working features, I failed to see why open projects will be associated to not working in average customer mind.

Plus average customer won't notice that someone ported Android ICS to his Samsung Wave until 1) he becomes geek enough or 2) the port is stable enought to get wider media coverage outside android geeks circles.

In both case, the fact that the port was possible because Android code is open *but* not working at start wont matter that much, and most probably only the former will be remembered, if any.

What will matter is that he could use an better Android version on his quite old Samsung smartphone...

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RE[3]: Comment by avgalen
by phoudoin on Wed 27th Jun 2012 16:12 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by avgalen"
phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

they would all turn their back on openness and say "closed gives us working stuff, open is far inferior".


Well, in this exact situation, it's more "for my Samsung Wave, open gives me hope that non-working-yet new stuff could works someday, while closed wont gives new stuff *ever*."

And I'm not sure that cast such negative light on the open side, really.
There is no shame to say "not working yet". What's a shame is to lie. And it's far easier to do when nobody but you can looks at internals to figure out himself...

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