Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Jul 2012 01:24 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces "We're able to produce absolutely stunning websites and mobile apps with great interaction design. Interfaces that are smooth and fun and let us understand information without even trying. But when it comes to email clients, we get a bit of a boring feeling, like using an old piece of software from 10 years ago. I think we can do better. So let's do that." Great ideas and beautiful design by Tobias van Schneider, but why he would forcefully shoehorn this clearly digital UI into Mac OS X is beyond me. It has no place there. This just screams Metro.
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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Wed 11th Jul 2012 06:03 UTC
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

This is lipstick on a pig. He’s taken a "10 year old program" and dressed it up to look 10-years younger, but it’s still the same underneath.

Where Mozilla have failed with Thunderbird is that they have not seen the pains that users are going through with webmail.

If it were me in control; this would be my "email" plan going forward:

1. Make Thunderbird a glorified Firefox extension; people could still download and install a program, but it would just be a special shortcut to launch Firefox and go straight to Thunderbird

2. Market it as "webmail made easy". Make account setup super simple, even import them automatically from the saved usernames/passwords in Firefox

People are not going to download, install and setup an app to do their webmail, but they will if it’s just a toolbar button in Firefox and (for the most part) preconfigured.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by kwan_e on Wed 11th Jul 2012 06:25 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

This is lipstick on a pig. He’s taken a "10 year old program" and dressed it up to look 10-years younger, but it’s still the same underneath.


I'm forced to use Lotus Notes where I work. I'll take lipstick on a pig.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by Radio on Wed 11th Jul 2012 07:37 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

Just ditch the email standard altogether. There is a good reason why younglings use facebook, or enterprises are more and more switching to wikis/yammer/stackExchange/etc.

Email is constrained and unsecure, that alone should be its death spell.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Vanders on Wed 11th Jul 2012 10:17 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

Just ditch the email standard altogether. There is a good reason why younglings use facebook, or enterprises are more and more switching to wikis/yammer/stackExchange/etc.

I don't particularly want to have a discussion with my mortgage advisor via. Facebook, nor do I want the gas company to send me bills via. Google+.

I work in a place that's using or has attempted to use in the past HipChat, Yammer, Lync, Jabber, Confluence and possibly a few more that I've forgotten. The number 1 method of official communication is still email (Exchange) and the ticketing system (Jira): and Jira still generates email.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by sorpigal on Wed 11th Jul 2012 17:17 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

The only thing I like about this thing is the attempt to deal with email attachments in a less-stupid way. At least he realizes there's a problem, even if he can't accurately identify it.

Remember, kids, SMTP is not a file transfer protocol *and never will be*, and that's a good thing. Just say NO to base64 encoded binaries.

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