Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 26th Jul 2012 21:26 UTC, submitted by M.Onty
Hardware, Embedded Systems "Andre Hedrick, a principal engineer and operating system architect at Cisco Systems and a Linux kernel contributor, has died. He leaves behind a wife, four young children and many friends. Andre made a significant contribution to personal computing history in a way few people fully realise." I indeed had no idea. It's subtle, but quite important indeed. Worth reading, and our thoughts and condolences with his family and friends.
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RE[3]: Ummmm...
by Hypnos on Sun 29th Jul 2012 02:39 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Ummmm..."
Hypnos
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2008-11-19

How do you know he had depression? How do you know it wasn't schizophrenia, or bipolar disorder, which are also significant risk factors for suicide?

Even if he were depressed, how would you weigh the pain he was experiencing against that of his family by his loss? Why are you qualified to judge?

Easy answers tend to be self-serving, which is why one should always be circumspect in judging others. I don't see how you have enough information, or even the moral authority.

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RE[4]: Ummmm...
by tomcat on Mon 30th Jul 2012 18:48 in reply to "RE[3]: Ummmm..."
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How do you know he had depression? How do you know it wasn't schizophrenia, or bipolar disorder, which are also significant risk factors for suicide? Even if he were depressed, how would you weigh the pain he was experiencing against that of his family by his loss?


It doesn't matter. There are treatments available which can control their symptoms. Suicide is NEVER justified.

Why are you qualified to judge? Easy answers tend to be self-serving, which is why one should always be circumspect in judging others. I don't see how you have enough information, or even the moral authority.


Without getting into detail, I've battled depression for many years, and I have faced the kinds of questions that Hendrick ultimately faced. The difference is that I received treatment, and I wasn't willing to run away from my own problems and leave my kids without a father. So, I speak from personal experience. Do you? I doubt it.

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RE[5]: Ummmm...
by Hypnos on Tue 31st Jul 2012 00:08 in reply to "RE[4]: Ummmm..."
Hypnos Member since:
2008-11-19

I've had family members with mental illnesses of various kinds, though I've been fortunate to not have any myself. You're right, I don't know what it feels like, only what my relatives expressed to me.

I applaud your strength in getting treatment, but I don't think it's easy to expect someone with these illnesses to necessarily do the same. Someone with severe depression lacks motivation to do much of anything; a schizophrenic may lose touch with what's real and what isn't; a persona with bipolar may hate the side effects of the drugs, or greatly miss the highs that come with the illness.

Moreover, unlike treating a broken leg, treatment for a mental illness changes your very thought patterns, i.e. *you*. As such it's a deeply personal decision. Therefore, is it clearly wrong if someone arrives at a different conclusion than you did?

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