Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 8th Aug 2012 18:45 UTC
Games Valve has just announced it will start selling applications through Steam. "The Software titles coming to Steam range from creativity to productivity. Many of the launch titles will take advantage of popular Steamworks features, such as easy installation, automatic updating, and the ability to save your work to your personal Steam Cloud space so your files may travel with you. More Software titles will be added in an ongoing fashion following the September 5th launch, and developers will be welcome to submit Software titles via Steam Greenlight." I feel like a broken record at this point, but guys and girls, Valve is going to release specifications for a 'Steambox'. A set of minimum specifications a Linux or Windows machine has to adhere to, either self-built or by an OEM. Steam pre-installed, can be used as regular PC and as a console. With Windows 8 locking itself down, this is their only option - and I applaud it.
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RE: Package management
by Wafflez on Wed 8th Aug 2012 21:52 UTC in reply to "Package management"
Wafflez
Member since:
2011-06-26

Ha, you realize that upgrading Gimp from 2 to 3 isn't exactly the same as upgrading Photoshop from 4 to 5?

As for hundreds of update services - wtf are you doing? No wonder you hate Windows and probably advocate Linux as being faster.

I just use two ways to update software - Windows Update or opening an application a pop up shows saying that there's a new version and downloads it.

Ofcourse from time to time you get crapware like that one from Google that comes with Chrome, but I replaced that POS with http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3962

Edited 2012-08-08 21:55 UTC

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RE[2]: Package management
by righard on Wed 8th Aug 2012 22:14 in reply to "RE: Package management"
righard Member since:
2007-12-26

Ha, you realize that upgrading Gimp from 2 to 3 isn't exactly the same as upgrading Photoshop from 4 to 5?

What do you mean?

Edited 2012-08-08 22:14 UTC

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RE[3]: Package management
by Wafflez on Wed 8th Aug 2012 22:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Package management"
Wafflez Member since:
2011-06-26

No one in their right minds would offer free quality software upgrades when one can make millions.

Quality paid software on Windows = no point in having some package manager for shitloads of amateur software.

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RE[3]: Package management
by leech on Wed 8th Aug 2012 22:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Package management"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

I think he means that photoshop sucks because it doesn't have a decent upgrade path.

;)

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RE[3]: Package management
by ilovebeer on Thu 9th Aug 2012 00:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Package management"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

Ha, you realize that upgrading Gimp from 2 to 3 isn't exactly the same as upgrading Photoshop from 4 to 5?
What do you mean?

I'd like to know what he means as well. Updating Photoshop is simple & painless. The only requirement is patience for it to finish.

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RE[2]: Package management
by 0brad0 on Wed 8th Aug 2012 23:20 in reply to "RE: Package management"
0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05


I just use two ways to update software - Windows Update or opening an application a pop up shows saying that there's a new version and downloads it.


And that's a joke at best. That's not my idea of good package management at all.

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RE[2]: Package management
by Gone fishing on Thu 9th Aug 2012 06:28 in reply to "RE: Package management"
Gone fishing Member since:
2006-02-22

I just use two ways to update software - Windows Update or opening an application a pop up shows saying that there's a new version and downloads it.


Because everyone just loves pop ups. I personally love it when you start working and some application starts flashing on your task bar for you attention. You open it and its a damn application updater, you click OK the screen dims and a windows dialogue pops up asking for permission. I really enjoy the break it gives when I'm concentrating.

I also love the way that shut down and restart time in Windows is about 20 minutes because Windows is updating. Other OSes can learn a lot about the best way to do package management from Windows.

Edited 2012-08-09 06:29 UTC

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RE[3]: Package management
by lucas_maximus on Thu 9th Aug 2012 07:06 in reply to "RE[2]: Package management"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

What universe does this happen in?

My hardware is 7 years old and I have to reboot maybe twice a month, it takes about 2 or 3 minutes to update at most.

Service Pack installation takes about 10-15 minutes at most on a reboot and that happens once every 2 years.

Also the auto-update is an absolute lie, most application prompt you on launch these days there is a newer version, anything else you have installed that nags you for an auto-update is running a service or a background process to check for auto-updates ... which usually means it is utter crap.

If you use crap software on any platform you are going to have a crap experience ... what a surprise</sarcasm>

Edited 2012-08-09 07:14 UTC

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