Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Aug 2012 23:54 UTC
Legal And just like that, within a matter of days, the jury has reached a verdict in Apple vs. Samsung. The basic gist is simple: Apple's software patents are valid, and many Samsung devices infringe upon them. Apple's iPhone 3G trade dress is valid, and Samsung's Galaxy S line infringes, but other devices did not. Samsung did not infringe Apple's iPad design patent. Apple did not infringe any of Samsung's patents. Apple is awarded a little over $1 billion in damages. Competition lost today, and developers in the United States should really start to get worried - software patents got validated big time today.
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RE[6]: Appeal Coming Soon
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 25th Aug 2012 17:52 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Appeal Coming Soon"
Thom_Holwerda
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Now do the actual math based on the actual population size of the smartphone and/or tablet markets for US v. international rather than raw population.

Now do the actual math based on the wealth of actual population size of the smartphone and/or tablet markets for US v. international.

Oops, not so skewed at all.


You do understand that Europe alone is more populous and has a more even wealth distribution than the US right? Europe alone is a larger smartphone market than the US - add in South America, India, Japan, China, Russia, and Australia, and the US is *peanuts*.

Typical US-centric view of the world.

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RE[7]: Appeal Coming Soon
by jared_wilkes on Sat 25th Aug 2012 18:34 in reply to "RE[6]: Appeal Coming Soon"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

I am certainly aware of the size of the European market. I'm also fully aware that you are counting about 2.5 Billion non-participants (conservatively) and another 1.5 Billion low-value, economically-speaking, consumers (again, conservatively) to generate some funny math.

The veiled threat of "a small sales drop in the US can easily have harsh repercussions for bottom line" paired with the funny math is nonsense. Apple just experienced a "small sales drop" (greater than 20% growth) and is at its strongest. Economically, all of the other players are in far more precarious situations: Samsung least so (because of other manufacturing), HTC (very real risk of disappearing), RIM (do I have to say it?), Nokia (?), Motorola (no one could ever save Moto)...

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RE[7]: Appeal Coming Soon
by jared_wilkes on Sat 25th Aug 2012 19:37 in reply to "RE[6]: Appeal Coming Soon"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

To further expand on my points about the addressable market and value from its participants.

"40% of iPhone revenue comes from the US, so 4.5% of the world's population is responsible for 40% of iPhone revenue. This means that the remaining 60% comes from 95.5% of the world's population. "

Yes. Apple gets 40% of its iPhone wealth from 4.5% of the world's population by having 30% market share (greater share than any other competitor in the market, with far higher profits too) of the most important mobile market and it gets 60% of its iPhone wealth from the 60% of world that is currently addressable.

Also, and this is the funniest:

Take away America. Go ahead! Chop 40% of the iPhone out, and Apple's market value is still greater than Samsung's TOTAL mobile phone market value... profits are still 2x, or even 3x, those of Samsung's, its nearest most profitable competitor, TOTAL profits.

Sounds like an awfully fragile basket of eggs!

Edited 2012-08-25 19:38 UTC

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