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moondevil
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2005-07-08

"[q][q]This complaint can also be addressed to Ada, Modula-3, Delphi, C#, Scala, Lisp, Haskell, ML...


Lisp? Seriously?
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While Lisp in itself is very simple, it can be used to express very complex architectures, specially when heavy use of macros is done.
[/q]Yes, but that's not a language issue, so this is out of topic. [/q]

How come is this not a language issue, if you still making use of the same language?

If you are doing cool meta-programming tricks with CLOS does it stop being Lisp just because a big part of CLOS is usually done with macros?

"[q]... C++ is a monster...

I prefer to think that it is a language for people that known how to program.
"Programmers using sane tool such as Ada or OCaml also know "how to program" but they're wise enough to avoid C++.. [/q]

If they can restrict themselves to aeronautics or financial market projects then yes, otherwise they are just loosing project opportunities.

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satsujinka Member since:
2010-03-11

Macros aren't really very complicated though (even if you can do complicated things with them.) Lisp is a "simple" language because it uses just 1 form (s-expressions.)

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Lisp is a "simple" language because it uses just 1 form (s-expressions.)


True, but to make use of those expressions the first term needs to do something.

What those terms do and what side-effects they have on your code is explained in 432 pages of the ANSI Common Lisp standard. Does not sound that simple to me.

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