Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 13th Sep 2012 20:00 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
Mozilla & Gecko clones "Over the past year and a half I've been spending more and more of my time working with Mozilla's latest project, Firefox OS. During that time I've fallen in love with the project and what it stands for, in ways that I've never experienced with a technology platform before." I'm not convinced just yet. I hope it succeeds, but I just doubt it actually will.
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Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

It makes perfect sense. I'm not in the business of caring about what lazy developers prefer. Anyone using HTML/JS to write run anywhere app is pretty much the worst kind of developer I know.

Wake up, developers. At one point, people were more principled than this.

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Nelson,

"It makes perfect sense. I'm not in the business of caring about what lazy developers prefer. Anyone using HTML/JS to write run anywhere app is pretty much the worst kind of developer I know."

Wow Nelson, I think you might have initially started out defending a sound principal, but your argument is becoming absurd. Writing portable code is ultimately about not having to reimplement the same thing everywhere. You can call it lazy if you want, but I'll call it being efficient.

The WWW, for all it's problems, could not be as ubiquitous and transparent as it is today if everyone used their own protocols and different standards. Unless you believe in segregating the online population, it's a good thing that everyone can visit each other's websites with the expectation that they will work everywhere else.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

You do this really naive thing where you assume you're the moral arbiter of programming and I'm supposed to care about your opinion.

Also, my apps feel more native, perform better, and I achive comparable productivity with just slapping together an alien feeling HTML5 website and calling it a day by stuffing it into an app.

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galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

It makes perfect sense. I'm not in the business of caring about what lazy developers prefer. Anyone using HTML/JS to write run anywhere app is pretty much the worst kind of developer I know.

Wake up, developers. At one point, people were more principled than this.


I'm very principled... One of my first principles is that I don't believe that development is the process of becoming attached at the hip to a particular vendor's idea of the right way to do things. HTML/JS might not be perfect, but it has one very significant feature that no other development platform has - no one company is steering the boat.

And since you want to resort to name calling... What is being content to slop up Microsoft or Apple's latest dog food for the sake of it making things easier for you? That sounds pretty lazy to me.

My development platform is the world - yours is just the latest gadget fad...

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29



I'm very principled... One of my first principles is that I don't believe that development is the process of becoming attached at the hip to a particular vendor's idea of the right way to do things. HTML/JS might not be perfect, but it has one very significant feature that no other development platform has - no one company is steering the boat.


XAML and C# are open specifications. There is nothing proprietary about them. They're also a great deal better than HTML/JS, so let's drop the straw man.

Anyone is free to implement a XAML parser. I'm not tied to any particular platform because my back end code has no ties to any platform. Its all generic .NET code. It works across the myriad platforms I'm interested including a great majority of the smartphone market.


And since you want to resort to name calling... What is being content to slop up Microsoft or Apple's latest dog food for the sake of it making things easier for you? That sounds pretty lazy to me.

My development platform is the world - yours is just the latest gadget fad...


I don't? The only parts Cocoa or XAML are the native front ends. A great majority of my code is portable across platforms.

I custom tailor my apps for the platform, while you try to make HTML fit everywhere , user experience be damned.

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