Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th Sep 2012 22:30 UTC
Intel You'd think this sort of stuff belonged to the past - but no. Apparently, Microsoft is afraid of Android on its Windows 8 tablets, because Intel has just announced that it will provide no support for Linux on its clover Trail processors. Supposedly, this chip is "designed for Windows 8". What?
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RE[9]: Comment by stabbyjones
by moondevil on Sun 16th Sep 2012 11:13 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by stabbyjones"
moondevil
Member since:
2005-07-08

Are you a software developer just selling services on top of only free software to both domestic and enterprise customers?

How do you pay your bills?

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

How do you pay your bills?


What's with this obsession about how to pay your bills with OSS? You bring this up all the time even when it doesn't relate to the topic at hand.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Because I my income depends on selling services around software development.

I used to be 100% open source zealot, until I had to start earning my own money, and discovered how hard it is to create any type of business around open source.

When I see people blindly defending open source, for me it always comes across as someone that wants everything for free, and does not earn its money selling software, so it is easy to state that everything should be free.

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RE[10]: Comment by stabbyjones
by lemur2 on Sun 16th Sep 2012 12:12 in reply to "RE[9]: Comment by stabbyjones"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Are you a software developer just selling services on top of only free software to both domestic and enterprise customers?

How do you pay your bills?


Open source is economically the best option for companies whose primary business is NOT to sell software. Any business whose products incorporate software, but the product itself is not the software per se, has a great business case to use open source.

Hence open source Android for businesses which sell phones, not apps.

Hence Samsung:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/257063/samsung_gets_serious_about_li...
http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-linux-foundation-apple-2012-...

Hence Toyota:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2011/07/toy...
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/72867.html

Hence the scientific projects such as the Large Hadron Collider:
http://www.internetnews.com/skerner/2008/09/large-hadron-collider--...

Hence the OIN community:
http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/licensees.php

Hence Google:
http://code.google.com/opensource/projects.html

These companies and institutions all collaborate to invest in open source software, to the benefit of all of them.

This is how the bills are paid.

Edited 2012-09-16 12:17 UTC

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

But this is the message I was trying to get across, without success.

If your business is to sell software, instead of services around it, which is not always possible, then the open source model does not work for a sustained business.

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RE[10]: Comment by stabbyjones
by Lennie on Mon 17th Sep 2012 11:33 in reply to "RE[9]: Comment by stabbyjones"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Sure, why not ?

Here is an example:

Working at an hosting provider you probably rely on open source for pretty much all your business needs.

You might not sell software, but you develop software for automation or services.

You can also replace hosting provider with some company like: Amazon or Ebay or whatever.

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