Linked by martini on Tue 23rd Oct 2012 22:02 UTC
X11, Window Managers Wayland 1.0 was officialy released on October 22. Wayland is a protocol for a compositor to talk to its clients as well as a C library implementation of that protocol. The compositor can be a standalone display server running on Linux kernel modesetting and evdev input devices, an X application, or a wayland client itself. The clients can be traditional applications, X servers (rootless or fullscreen) or other display servers.
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RE: So where's the thing...
by renox on Thu 25th Oct 2012 13:17 UTC in reply to "So where's the thing..."
renox
Member since:
2005-07-06

Everything that I have been hearing about Wayland is that is going to rock the butts off with dead light fast rendering
Then either you failed to listen or the one you heard was misinformed: Wayland ~= X.Org DRI2 extension, so if you use a toolkit which use the DRI2 extension the performance should stay the same (more or less: Wayland integrates the compositor and display in the same process: less IPC in Wayland)

and every desktop being pixel perfect.
With Weston, resizing Window should be "pixed perfect" (but resizing can be jerky), with KDE's Wayland server this is the opposite: resizing will be smooth but the content of the window can be "ugly".

As for the irrational criticisms of X: many times the blame has been on X even though the issue was with drivers, Wayland won't fix drivers issue.

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RE[2]: So where's the thing...
by FishB8 on Fri 26th Oct 2012 04:13 in reply to "RE: So where's the thing..."
FishB8 Member since:
2006-01-16

Then either you failed to listen or the one you heard was misinformed: Wayland ~= X.Org DRI2 extension, so if you use a toolkit which use the DRI2 extension the performance should stay the same (more or less: Wayland integrates the compositor and display in the same process: less IPC in Wayland)

As for the irrational criticisms of X: many times the blame has been on X even though the issue was with drivers, Wayland won't fix drivers issue.


Bull crap. X11 is a protocol. It's a colossal fossilized terd from the late Triassic period of computing. You can dress it up all you want with fancy rendering extensions and the worlds best drivers, but the latency will still suck. A monolithic nightmare designed from a time before shared memory and dynamic linking has no business on a modern system.

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RE[3]: So where's the thing...
by renox on Fri 26th Oct 2012 08:43 in reply to "RE[2]: So where's the thing..."
renox Member since:
2005-07-06

Thanks for your so well researched arguments, I think that we couldn't have lived without them.
What was I saying 'irrational criticisms of X'?
Yet another example..

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gfolkert Member since:
2008-12-15

Wow.

X11 is indeed a protocol.

You've mixed a TON of criticisms... that stem from implementations of CDE and old ways of handling libraries and memory management that have pretty much gone away in any Modern Build of X... (or X.org) that uses any of the recent re-factored source codes. Compilers now a day are a lot smarter than you obviously know.

Sorry you don't have a relative clue.

So, how long have you been actually *USING* X?

Edited 2012-10-26 15:23 UTC

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