Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Oct 2012 19:15 UTC
Google "We know what Nexus means now. There can no longer be any doubt: a Nexus device is about openness first and foremost. That does not mean Google won't make compromises with the Nexus program. It simply means that Google will only make compromises when it comes to increasing openness. Why? Because Google benefits from open devices as much, or more than you do. Last year the technology sphere was busily discussing whether or not the Verizon Galaxy Nexus was a 'true' Nexus device. This year we have an answer: a Nexus controlled by a carrier is no Nexus. Rather than get in bed with Verizon, Sprint, or AT&T to produce an LTE version of the Nexus 4, we have HSPA+ only. Even the new Nexus 7 with mobile data is limited to this enhanced 3G standard." Interesting take on the whole thing - reeks a bit of finding a reason for a feature deficiency, but it does fit into the available facts.
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Comment by Luminair
by Luminair on Tue 30th Oct 2012 22:40 UTC
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on products with margins this thin, the extra cost of LTE will significantly change the final price and ruin the whole idea. The reason there are no $350 LTE phones is not because the carriers are closed, but because that would be a stupid money-wasting product.

An LTE phone is a different product. It takes thousands of people to make a different product. And for what? Has anyone paid attention to how expensive, rare, and unpopular LTE phones are? Apple makes the most expensive premium electronics, and they could have done LTE from day one. Their opinion on LTE has been correct.

LTE is the most fringe of fringe phone features. It exists for carriers to extract cash from customers. It is not because people need the speed upgrade, despite what huge nerds think. Eventually the 700mhz band will provide better service, but not yet.

Edited 2012-10-30 22:41 UTC

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RE: Comment by Luminair
by tankist on Tue 30th Oct 2012 23:47 in reply to "Comment by Luminair"
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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by Morgan on Wed 31st Oct 2012 00:32 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
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And as always, Apple is late to the party. They have a habit of waiting to see whether a new technology will take off before jumping in, with a few specific exceptions*. Just look at their stance on Blu-Ray; it remains a niche on PCs but is gaining ground on the consumer front, and so Apple has chosen to move away from optical media altogether. Personally I can't fault them for it; while I think they should have embraced Blu-Ray I doubt their stance has had a negative effect on sales of Macs.

* USB, FireWire and now Thunderbolt are a few examples where Apple is the leader on a technology, rather than a follower.

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by Luminair on Wed 31st Oct 2012 04:54 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
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yeah that's my point. it took them all this time to make an LTE phone, and now look at the price.

and really, they still couldn't make one phone: there are at least 3 different iphone 5 models, and each costs almost 2-3x the price of nexus 4. are you beginning to see what I'm saying.

google had an LTE phone. verizon galaxy nexus sucked AND didnt sell well AND cost more. now is that why they'd skip making an lte phone, or is it because verizon is a hassle to deal with. come on.

you can't tick the LTE checkbox that nobody cares about anyway, on a phone you're almost giving away.

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