Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 1st Dec 2012 09:05 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes I was on vacation to the US last week, and a few technology-related things stood out to me. One, the in-flight entertainment things aboard international Delta flights are absolutely terrible. Worst software I've ever used, and many of them were plain broken. iPads/Android tablets please, Delta. Second, there were more employees than customers in the Las Vegas Apple Store. Since there were a reasonable amount of customers, there were even more employees. It looked ridiculous. Are they all like that? Three, using a Windows Phone 8 device to mooch off an Apple Store's wifi is strangely satisfying. Four, there are a lot of technology commercials on US TV, and they are all corny as hell. Two iPads playing piano? Children holding a PowerPoint presentation to convince their parents to switch mobile plans? Seriously? Is this what this industry has come to? Five, it's pretty clear iPads and iPhones are way, way, way more popular in the US than in The Netherlands. You see them everywhere, and people display them so openly. It was jarring. In The Netherlands, I always feel as if people are ashamed to take devices out of their pockets in the first place. No wonder US-based writers like Gruber and Arment think Apple dominates everything - if you rarely leave the US, it seems as if they do! Six, and this is not technology related at all but I want to get it off my chest because us Europeans could learn a thing or two from it: Americans are the nicest people I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with. I knew this from my existing American friends and from my previous trip to the US (Texas, ten years ago), but it bears repeating. Open, interested, kind, helpful, considerate, and nice. Not exactly qualities I'd ascribe to most of my fellow countrymen. Alright, as you were!
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RE: Comment by maccouch
by MOS6510 on Sat 1st Dec 2012 13:44 UTC in reply to "Comment by maccouch"
MOS6510
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I also think Thom lives in a very remote part of The Netherlands. The parts I visit I see people pulling devices all day long and iDevices are not rare.

My living room is now full of women, so I fled upstairs. Three of them have an iPhone, one something else, but nobody knows what it is because she never uses it and my wife showed something on her iPad just after I demonstrated FaceTime which I used yesterday to locate groceries with real time directions of my wife.

I did some groceries today too, while waiting in line the girl in from of me pulled, what appeared to be, an Android phone while I did a Foursquare check-in on my WP phone, only to end up as an eyewitness to an attempt at shoplifting. And Sinterklaas was there too, but he didn't seem to have a mobile phone.

Before that I was at my son's soccer game, which he lost despite scoring a nice goal. Most of my son's team parents have either iPhones or want one if they could afford it. I didn't see many today, but it was rather cold.

Now my son is playing with 2 friends. He used my iPad, one kid also has an iPad and the other an iPod touch.

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RE[2]: Comment by maccouch
by Lion on Sun 2nd Dec 2012 08:49 in reply to "RE: Comment by maccouch"
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2007-03-22

The place I see the most handheld technology is on trains. I see a surprising amount of Windows Phone, but the majority is still a reasonably even mix of iPhones and Androids. The only tablets I have seen anyone else using on the train are iPads.
As a gross generalization, highschoolers either have iPhones or low-end androids. Workers are all over the map, but my generalization based on people's appearances is that the more fashion-conscious tend to have iPhones, which leads to a predominance of them among women.
I don't remember the last time I saw a BlackBerry or an iPod.

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RE[3]: Comment by maccouch
by MOS6510 on Mon 3rd Dec 2012 05:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by maccouch"
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2011-05-12

At places where people are waiting you're likely to see cell phones and other devices, like on the train.

I also have yet to spot a non-iPad tablet in the wild. When sales people visit me at work they often have an iPad to show stuff. Recently a bloke from Lenovo called me about Windows tablets and he would call again once they were out, but I haven't heard of him since.

BlackBerries have disappeared in my corporate setting, but apparently they are still popular with kids due to the BB messaging service. iPods due tend to show up in the sports world with runners and cyclers, but outside that sector only the iPod touch is seen by me (mostly used by kids).

I have only seen a WP once that wasn't owned by me, apart from a co-worker.

It's interesting that we see all these sales and usage figures, but real-life observation can be totally different.

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RE[2]: Comment by maccouch
by zima on Thu 6th Dec 2012 15:02 in reply to "RE: Comment by maccouch"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

And Sinterklaas was there too, but he didn't seem to have a mobile phone.

I think it's safe to assume that pretty much everybody has a mobile phone in the Netherlands (Europe generally has more than 100% mobile phone penetration), even if hidden or switched off.

But http://stuffdutchpeoplelike.com/2011/11/24/no-36-sinterklaas/ ...interesting. Is the blog accurate? ;) ("16,629,200 people can't be wrong, right?" :>>>)
And what's really the deal with the servants, what's the word on the street so to speak?

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RE[3]: Comment by maccouch
by MOS6510 on Thu 6th Dec 2012 15:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by maccouch"
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2011-05-12

The blog is valid!

Zwarte Pieten (Black Petes) are Sinterklaas' servants. Kids love them and know nothing about racism. Adult (mostly white) people who are bored say it's racist, because they are black people helping out an old white man.

We've had experiments with multi colored Petes and even banning them altogether.

My dad was black and when I as a kid I never thought of Zwarte Piet as a dumb black slave. Most black people are brown anyway and I've never seen such cheerful slaves, never mind their clothes.

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