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Windows Desktop users deserve a significant rethink of the Windows 8 gaffes and omissions for the next version of Windows, writes InfoWorld's Woody Leonhard, offering 10 must-have features for Windows 9. From a "Get out of hell" modal dialog to prevent unwanted jumping to Metro, to a Control Panel that actually controls the kinds of things you would want a Control Panel to control, it's 'due time we diehards speak out.' What's your feedback for the Windows dev team as it puts together its Windows 9 (or "Windows Blue"?) specs.
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RE[4]: Put the desktop back
by UltraZelda64 on Tue 4th Dec 2012 06:11 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Put the desktop back"
UltraZelda64
Member since:
2006-12-05

My point simply was that, no matter what you do, you cannot avoid encounters with Metro. Desktop user or not, you just can't. Despite the original poster claiming, "oh, just disable it!"

And by the way, no--your second summary is way off; it's more like: "I almost never need the damn charms, yet they insist on popping up all the damn time anyway." And yes, the charms bar is a part of Metro, which you cannot avoid using just to reboot the damn machine. Even if it's only every once in a while it's just an example of my point that you cannot escape Metro. That is my point.

And as for the start menu thing... well, the traditional one only took a tiny fraction of the screen; Metro's "Start screen" literally takes up the whole damn screen (and plenty of scrolling if you've got it nicely populated with programs).

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RE[5]: Put the desktop back
by WereCatf on Tue 4th Dec 2012 06:23 in reply to "RE[4]: Put the desktop back"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

And yes, the charms bar is a part of Metro, which you cannot avoid using just to reboot the damn machine.


If you stubbornly insist on not installing a Start menu - replacement.

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Just like Microsoft stubbornly insisted on and ultimately decided to leave out basic, expected functionality for desktop users? It goes both ways.

I'm not a fan of installing third-party programs for such incredibly basic things at the end of 2012 when Microsoft provided and fully-supported it natively for the last 15+ years. As crazy as it may sound, I would trust Microsoft's implementations of such basic system functionality to be much more reliable and stable than what third-party developers may provide, and I'd rather not risk losing such basic functionality because a third party program crashed or had to be forced to terminate. After all--Microsoft's original implementation has been proven with obscene amounts of both time and real-world use, so that part of Windows was relatively rock-solid at least.

I did, in fact, install a program at the beginning of my evaluation--but I uninstalled it both to see what that "Start screen" was all about and also for the above-mentioned lack of trust toward third-party solutions to such major system functionality.

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RE[5]: Put the desktop back
by Undomiel on Tue 4th Dec 2012 08:59 in reply to "RE[4]: Put the desktop back"
Undomiel Member since:
2007-11-23

And yes, the charms bar is a part of Metro, which you cannot avoid using just to reboot the damn machine.


Windows Key + R, shutdown /r /t 0 /f

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RE[6]: Put the desktop back
by ricegf on Tue 4th Dec 2012 13:07 in reply to "RE[5]: Put the desktop back"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Wait, now the command line is a FEATURE?! After 12 years of hate and ridicule by the Microsoft faithful against us Linux users? Oh, the irony of it all... ;-)

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