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Amiga & AROS Icaros Desktop, the popular distribution of the AROS Research Operating System, has recently released its version 1.5, a new milestone since it finally allows to run classic Amiga software and games on full screen or perfectly integrating them into the host AROS desktop.
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RE: Comment by lucas_maximus
by bassbeast on Sat 5th Jan 2013 15:15 UTC in reply to "Comment by lucas_maximus"
bassbeast
Member since:
2007-11-11

But that is the problem in a nutshell isn't it? unless you are a serious fanboi of the Amiga and have a major case of nostalgia there really isn't any point in running Amiga anything anymore.

I mean lets look at the Amiga...what made the Amiga so beloved? Well it could multitask at a time when attempting to do that in Windows was dicey at best, it had fully customized hardware with an OS built around the chips so that it could wring every last drop of performance which made it pretty killer for multimedia, and its UI was frankly several years ahead of its time, when the majority were on Win 2.x and 3.x Amiga looked frankly nicer than Win98 which came much later.

But NONE of that is still relevant, MSFT Google and Apple can ALL multitask as many programs as you'd want to run and if you hate the big 3 OS companies you have BSD and Linux, both of which have MUCH more programs than the Amiga had and both can run AmigaOS in a VM no problem.

Don't get me wrong, if some devs want to spend their free time building an Amiga clone? No problem, enjoy, I'm simply pointing out that there really isn't a point in niche OSes that have fallen behind, with the tech world changing so fast and with some many choices in X86 it just doesn't make much sense to run an OS like Amiga anymore.

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AmigaRobbo Member since:
2005-11-15

There really isn't any point in running anything else anymore, as all the software is all available on Windows.

I'm simply pointing out that there really isn't a point in niche OSes that have fallen behind, it just doesn't make much sense to run any other non-windows OSs anymore.

Edited 2013-01-05 21:49 UTC

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bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

You DO realize that little snarky remark made no damned sense, yes? While there is plenty of Windows specific software, especially for business, most of the big stuff like browsers and media players and the like are built for the "big three" Apple, Google/Linux, and MSFT. You are talking about a niche OS whose niche is so tiny you could fit every single user in any HS gym in the USA and still have seats left over.

NO support from ANY of the major software makers, NO software that isn't old or (badly) ported, it makes no damned sense and comparing running a joke OS to "standing up to the man" just makes you look retarded. if you have a hatred for MSFT there is Apple, Android, ChromeOS, BSD, Solarios, both open and closed and ALL OF THEM have MUCH better software libraries and MUCH better support than this thing made in Bob's basement will EVER have.

So remember the words of Tropic Thunder and try not to go full retard next time, okay?

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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by viton on Sun 6th Jan 2013 14:25 in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
viton Member since:
2005-08-09

it just doesn't make much sense to run an OS like Amiga anymore.
This is really not true.
I have a couple of 1+GHz ARM Cortex-A9 systems. Ubuntu is very slow on it, totally below usability. AROS is already working on Raspberry PI and is perfect choice for these systems.

Edited 2013-01-06 14:26 UTC

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

The wonders of the Amiga was the OS + Hardware combo, the OS alone is just nostalgia.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

You are forgetting the hardware part.

For me what made Amiga special, besides the Workbench, was the ability to use the special sound and graphics processors.

Nowadays any PC combo beats Amiga hardware hands down.

It was a wonderful machine, but its time is passé.

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ncafferkey Member since:
2006-09-15

the OS alone is just nostalgia

Nowadays any PC combo beats Amiga hardware hands down.


Doesn't that make the hardware just nostalgia too?

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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by boing on Tue 8th Jan 2013 23:10 in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
boing Member since:
2007-05-22

But that is the problem in a nutshell isn't it? unless you are a serious fanboi of the Amiga and have a major case of nostalgia there really isn't any point in running Amiga anything anymore.

I mean lets look at the Amiga...what made the Amiga so beloved? Well it could multitask at a time when attempting to do that in Windows was dicey at best, it had fully customized hardware with an OS built around the chips so that it could wring every last drop of performance which made it pretty killer for multimedia, and its UI was frankly several years ahead of its time, when the majority were on Win 2.x and 3.x Amiga looked frankly nicer than Win98 which came much later.

But NONE of that is still relevant, MSFT Google and Apple can ALL multitask as many programs as you'd want to run and if you hate the big 3 OS companies you have BSD and Linux, both of which have MUCH more programs than the Amiga had and both can run AmigaOS in a VM no problem.


I needed a small portable machine to provide me with SSH, Web Browser, and Jabber Client. So I needed something simple. Picked up a used old PPC Mac Mini (for about nothing) and put a Amiga OS clone (MorphOS) on it. It serves my needs and boots up in 5 seconds or less, and shutdown is instant. I don't have to worry about virus for the most part since I doubt anyone wants to target this OS. I even setup the machine to boot Mac OS X and Ubuntu Linux. Mac OS X and Ubuntu feel very slow on this machine compared to MorphOS. I have been very happy using MorphOS Amiga clone for a cheap machine with limited needs. I would suspect you could get a old PC for about nothing and put AROS on it, and it would run faster then Windows or Linux due to its lower overhead.

So some people do have reasons to use an AmigaOS clone even in today's times. Too bad AmigaOS didn't target mobile devices early on, would have been a good area it could have done well in.

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RE[3]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by zima on Fri 11th Jan 2013 23:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I would suspect you could get a old PC for about nothing and put AROS on it, and it would run faster then Windows or Linux due to its lower overhead.

It would also crash faster ;)

Really, very powerful PCs can be had for almost nothing - so, use the economies of scale the PC brought (that's what killed Amiga, its tightly coupled hardware and software couldn't keep up). Also more portable - like a laptop or netbook.

And, under PC OS, you will have better SSH, web browser, or Jabber clients...

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