Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 5th Jan 2013 14:53 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y And so this situation is starting to get ridiculous - and consumers are, as usual, caught in the middle of it all. Google has just blocked Windows Phone devices from accessing Google Maps on their phones. In addition, it also seems Windows Phone users are now restricted to the basic HTML version of the mobile GMail website. While understandable from a defensive perspective - Microsoft's extortion scheme targeting Android device makers and all that - it's still a massive dick move that only hurts consumers. Update: the media attention has worked - Google is backpedalling, and will remove the redirect. "We periodically test Google Maps compatibility with mobile browsers to make sure we deliver the best experience for those users. In our last test, IE mobile still did not offer a good maps experience with no ability to pan or zoom and perform basic map functionality. As a result, we chose to continue to redirect IE mobile users to Google.com where they could at least make local searches. The Firefox mobile browser did offer a somewhat better user experience and that’s why there is no redirect for those users. Recent improvements to IE mobile and Google Maps now deliver a better experience and we are currently working to remove the redirect. We will continue to test Google Maps compatibility with other mobile browsers to ensure the best possible experience for users."
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RE: Why does HTML5 exist?
by bassbeast on Sun 6th Jan 2013 03:27 UTC in reply to "Why does HTML5 exist?"
bassbeast
Member since:
2007-11-11

Because we are going back to the days of "This site works best in" thanks to corporate douchebaggery? To be fair the W3C is slow as Xmas but the answer there is obvious, fire their behinds and start a new standards org that doesn't take 3 forevers to get new features into the spec.

But of course that wouldn't let big corps like Google lock people into their platform, can't have none of that. does anybody else find it ironic that after years of having to fake user string with FF and Opera thanks to IE 6 that now its IE that is gonna have to fake user strings? Doesn't make it any less douchebaggy though and I think this can finally lay to rest that whole "do no evil" bit, since locking down the web with platform specific crap and redirects is pretty damned evil in my book.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

You have described the WHATWG.

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RE[3]: Why does HTML5 exist?
by bassbeast on Mon 7th Jan 2013 20:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Why does HTML5 exist?"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

Sorry, didn't know they had already come up with a replacement for W3C but that just drives my point home more, doesn't it? If there is a group with standards that doesn't take forever like W3C then the ONLY reason to do HTML redirects and "works best in" crap is good old fashioned proprietary lock in, just as we saw for half a decade with IE.

To me the sad part if I truly believe we are going "back to the 80s" with locked down boxes running locked down OSes to surf a locked down web, because it seems like Google and MSFT took one look at how much money that Apple was making (as has been reported iPhone makes more than every product MSFT makes combined) and are simply gonna copy all the nasty lock in that Apple and days past MSFT were famous for.

I truly believe the teens will be looked back upon as "the years when all tech became glorified game consoles" because it'll all be so locked down that when the corps no longer support the device it'll be landfill fodder, just as that old GameCube or Dreamcast is worthless without parent corp support. damned shame as never before as the hardware been so cheap and so powerful, but the profits Apple has been making is just too much for the IT world to ignore it seems.

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