Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Jan 2013 23:27 UTC
Windows So, a rudimentary jailbreak for Windows RT made its way onto the web these past few days. Open source applications were ported right away, and it was confirmed that Windows RT is the full Windows - it's exactly the same as regular Windows, except that it runs on ARM. Microsoft responded to the jailbreak as well.
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RE[6]: Comment by saso
by WereCatf on Wed 9th Jan 2013 12:06 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by saso"
WereCatf
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2006-02-15

I have absolutely no issue using my Surface


Didn't I just say that mobile device are irrelevant in this context? Try using a 24" display, sitting on the table along with a keyboard, mouse and all the usual desktop accessories and see how much you like reaching over all those to poke at the screen.

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RE[7]: Comment by saso
by Nelson on Wed 9th Jan 2013 17:23 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by saso"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29


Didn't I just say that mobile device are irrelevant in this context? Try using a 24" display, sitting on the table along with a keyboard, mouse and all the usual desktop accessories and see how much you like reaching over all those to poke at the screen.


You saying mobile devices are irrelevant does not make them so. If you're in a minority and use a 24 inch display (And you are undoubtedly the minority, according to Microsofts usage data) then there are a variety of peripheral solutions ranging from gesture enabled track pad addons to Kinect-like motion detection, to eye detection, to multi touch mice.

Or you can just do what I do and get Windows 8 drivers for your Synaptics track pad if they're out. My drivers at least are not brain dead (ie: Left swipe on my trackpad is a left swipe on Windows, and swipes from the edges of the Trackpad bring up charms)

That, and I think it is silly to assume that even large screen form factors wont evolve. All-In-Ones will likely need to face a rethinking of their interaction models to fit with our new touch enabled future.

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RE[8]: Comment by saso
by WereCatf on Wed 9th Jan 2013 18:17 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by saso"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

You saying mobile devices are irrelevant does not make them so.


*sigh* Do you do that on a purpose or are you just daft? I clearly said "in this context" as I have been talking about the desktop all the time -- not mobile devices.

If you're in a minority and use a 24 inch display (And you are undoubtedly the minority, according to Microsofts usage data)


How large is this "minority" in question, though? Even if 10% of Windows-users used a 17"+ display we'd be talking about tens of millions of people.

Or you can just do what I do and get Windows 8 drivers for your Synaptics track pad if they're out.


Most desktop computers do not ship with track-pads.

That, and I think it is silly to assume that even large screen form factors wont evolve.


Oh, they will evolve eventually, but it's equally silly to assume that touch is the solution. It's not something you can fix on the software-side of things when the limitations are in the real world, it would take something completely new and, well, that doesn't exist yet.

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