Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Jan 2013 01:41 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "A senior OpenBSD developer has complained on a mailing list that upstream vendors of free and open source software are adding in changes without any thought of whether downstream users could adapt to the change. Marc Espie said this would hurt smaller players by not allowing them to keep up with the changes. Basically what is happening is that numerous changes are being made to Linux and smaller projects like OpenBSD cannot keep up with the changes. And, according to Espie, not all these changes are strictly necessary."
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Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

But why does GNU have to create their own grep and sed etc instead of just using the BSD ones? Could it be...ideologic reasons? ;)

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sec0ndshadow Member since:
2013-01-03

Because they wanted to add extensions? And NIH syndrome is a thing?

To paraphrase: Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to the boredom of a developer.

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kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

But why does GNU have to create their own grep and sed etc instead of just using the BSD ones? Could it be...ideologic reasons? ;)


I don't know. Did BSD grep and sed come before GNU grep and sed? From what I know, GNU was a reaction to proprietary programs for which source was unavailable. In that sense, it's not ideology but pragmatism to write something you have control over.

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tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

GNU was designed to be a complete reimplementation of Unix that shared no code with AT&T or Berkeley. It's been that way since the 80s, and the "no copying from BSD" rule was essentially to keep the lawyers at bay.

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Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

But why does GNU have to create their own grep and sed etc instead of just using the BSD ones? Could it be...ideologic reasons? ;)

In fairness, BSD wasn't open source when many GNU tools were first developed.

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phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

BSD (and even AT&T UNIX) were open-source from the get-go. You couldn't get binaries for UNIX back in the day. You got tapes with the source on them, compiled them yourself, and installed it.

BSD was not "free software" according to the strange definitions of the GNU crowd. But it was (and always has been) open-source.

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