Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 20th Jan 2013 23:42 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces Ever since I bought my HTC HD7 way back in October 2010, I have been hooked on Windows Phone. Without even being able to test-drive the new operating system (The Netherlands didn't get Windows Phone 7 until a year later), I imported the HD7 from the US - the minimalist, stark, clean, flat, and textual interface spoke to me, and I just knew I would like it. And like it, I did.
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Digital vs Analog really ?
by delta0.delta0 on Mon 21st Jan 2013 02:12 UTC
delta0.delta0
Member since:
2010-06-01

I don't know about that label between the designs. Maybe futuristic vs retro ? Analogue doesn't fit well, shadows, gradients translucency and transparency are not really analogue they are not retro either, but you could say the "digital" side is pretty retro except that Holo is pretty futuristic looking and not retro, I don't know it just didn't read right in places.

Who cares what Gruber says ?, I don't understand why you let him wind you up so much. He is an apple fanatic, there are a minority that wholesale buy into the marketing and brand of a platform, he makes a tonne of money from it. I absolutely agree with you though Apple is probably working on a new futuristic interface and this is his way of trying to side step all that has come already.


On a side note, you have a strong weakness for Microsoft platforms, it is evident in a lot of the articles you publish or comment on, we all have a bias, its inherent to all of us, to say I have no bias I support everything and nothing is just impossible. If you are human and have a passion for a specific field, you will have a bias and they will colour your words, its as simple as that. To not admit it is to lie to yourself, because deep down you know this bias exists.

This is probably why you think the Metro interface is such a "visually unique interface". Why you think "Microsoft (and to a lesser extent, Google) has taken over the baton, reaping all the praise for its innovative and unique Metro interface - and there are people in this world who simply cannot accept the fact that the tables have turned."

Metro as you mentioned goes back to the Zune (and even windows 2 or 3 to some extent, its a pretty retro interface in places) which was a commercial flop, low and behold they port it to everything windows and sales in all windows product lines are flopping, its a bad interface, if we just go by sales.

You think it doesn't sell because its too different, I look at it and see a boring / bland interface.

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/windows-phone...

That is the interface, its all monotone everything looks the same, I don't see how that grid of pseudo icons excites you so much. There is no detail just a mainly monotone colour, plastered all over your screen and this is meant to excite the masses ?


I am not all that keen on walking around with a yellow phone or brightly coloured phones generally, its like the people that drive Yellow Porsches, I see 1 of them and instantly think you dick. Its just a bit childish. If I want to add colour I could buy a silicone cover in some bright colour, but I would rather look at the screen rather than be distracted by the phone. I like Sony's design ethos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktIhuJA_92I

This is what I think you miss, your so distracted by the UI of the OS that you miss the purpose of the device, the content, the use and most importantly the applications. In terms of hardware, the stuff Sony is doing with NFC is really cool as well, touch the tv remote to display the phone screen on the tv is really useful.

So for you the metro interface may be "innovative and unique", but to others like me its pretty monotone and bland, with hardly any real configurability, can you even apply a good background wallpaper to it ?.

It does nothing for the content, it doesn't improve usability in any meaningful way (in fact some if not most would agree that windows 8 usability is just awful with a mouse and keyboard) and it does nothing for the content / applications either (again this is worse - no proper window handling in the metro side of windows 8 ).

Is change just for the purpose of being different better? is it really innovative ? Does Metro improve usability does it make the applications more accessible ? I think if you were to honestly answer these questions, you would realise why the interface is a flop. The same reason why Apple "natural" scrolling is just a dumb ass idea as well.

Reply Score: 6

Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

yeah, its a terrible, terrible, terrible labeling system that completely distracts from the discussion Thom is trying to start. It couldn't be worse labeling, I'd take Bieber UI vs Gaga UI over this nonsense.

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tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

yeah, its a terrible, terrible, terrible labeling system that completely distracts from the discussion Thom is trying to start. It couldn't be worse labeling, I'd take Bieber UI vs Gaga UI over this nonsense.


You're obsessing over the wrong details, and Thom is essentially right here: It's about Skeuomorphism (modeling the analog world) versus Digital (modeling digital design).

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RE: Digital vs Analog really ?
by bentoo on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 20:10 in reply to "Digital vs Analog really ?"
bentoo Member since:
2012-09-21

Does Metro improve usability does it make the applications more accessible ? I think if you were to honestly answer these questions, you would realise why the interface is a flop.


Honestly yes. To me Metro does improve usability as it provides me with more "at a glance" information than Android or iOS.

As far as "applications more accessible" that is kind of hard to gauge. iOS doesn't have a home screen and Android's default app drawer is a mess (lacking any customization/organization options). Either way it's about the same number of touches to get to a non-pinned application on WP as it is on Android or iOS.

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