Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 4th Feb 2013 22:10 UTC
Google "People are, unsurprisingly, upset that Microsoft have imposed UEFI Secure Boot on the x86 market. A situation in which one company gets to determine which software will boot on systems by default is obviously open to abuse. What's more surprising is that many of the people who are upset about this are completely fine with encouraging people to buy Chromebooks. Out of the box, Chromebooks are even more locked down than Windows 8 machines." Good point.
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RE[2]: One little difference
by segedunum on Tue 5th Feb 2013 00:31 UTC in reply to "RE: One little difference"
segedunum
Member since:
2005-07-06

The statement that Chromebooks are more locked down than Windows 8 machines is somewhat wide of the mark for the reasons the OP stated.

Garrett also states this:

In contrast to Chromebooks, Windows 8 certified systems are required to permit the user to install their own keys.

Anyone who believes this will be implemented on all but the most expensive of motherboards has taken leave of their senses.

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RE[3]: One little difference
by mjg59 on Tue 5th Feb 2013 00:52 in reply to "RE[2]: One little difference"
mjg59 Member since:
2005-10-17

In which case you can doubtless provide multiple examples of Windows 8 certified hardware that doesn't have this feature, right?

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Businesses primary purpose is to make money; the product is equity payments and the customers are the shareholders. Those shiney blinky light products are simply a tool used in producing the companies real product.

It's perfectly rational to expect vendors to exclude optional features. If managing and/or disabling secure-boot is an optional feature, you can be sure it'll be excluded to reduce production costs when maximizing profit margins.

It get's even better. Now you can claim that managable secure-boot is a premium feature only available in your high end products and you can charge the chattle more for the privaledge. You pull an even bigger profit margin out of the premium products passing that on to your real customers; shareholders.

Unless something has changed, manageable secure-boot is also only an option for Intel based machines so all those ARM based win8 machines are guaranteed not to include the option to allow hardware owner control over there purchased property.

Yet, all I could see in the linked article was that unlocking your chromebook bootloader will delete current user data. So, not at all different from unlocking an Android device; you do it right after purchase or take a backup of your data to restore after unlocking. "not a big deal" (tm)

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RE[4]: One little difference
by segedunum on Tue 5th Feb 2013 21:44 in reply to "RE[3]: One little difference"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Since you made the assertion that this is somehow enforced by Microsoft then I suggest that you do it sweetheart. I'm afraid you don't get out of it like that. As you should well know motherboard manufacturers have done, do and will do the absolute bare minimum and less to cut costs. They are not going to implement a modifiable key system that virtually none of their users use.....and you think Microsoft will complain about that?

I'm sorry Garrett, but I'm smelling you out as a sell-out as Sam Varghese has already done.

Edited 2013-02-05 21:48 UTC

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