Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Feb 2013 13:21 UTC
Opera Software De kogel is door de kerk: as we already talked about earlier, Opera is going to switch to the WebKit engine, leaving its own Presto rendering engine behind. We didn't yet know if they would the switch only on mobile or on the desktop as well, and they cleared that up too: both mobile and desktop Opera Browsers will switch to the WebKit rendering engine.
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Bill Shooter of Bul
Member since:
2006-07-14

Oh, At first I thought you were saying that the other browsers also abandoned their engines to focus on ui. But I understand you're saying that Opera will now just be like them, only doing ui.

Fair enough, however Opera has actually invented most of the modern web browser ui that I find useful (tabs, quick dial, etc). Its the engine that it usually fell short on. So I look forward to it being able to innovate without having to constantly fix their javascript support.

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Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

Oh, At first I thought you were saying that the other browsers also abandoned their engines to focus on ui. But I understand you're saying that Opera will now just be like them, only doing ui.

Fair enough, however Opera has actually invented most of the modern web browser ui that I find useful (tabs, quick dial, etc). Its the engine that it usually fell short on. So I look forward to it being able to innovate without having to constantly fix their javascript support.

Yeah sorry I could have been more clear. But I don't care about who was first. I care about who does it best. Opera is number 2 for me(Firefox is 1). Opera feels fast and reliable. The speed of Chrome with the nice Opera GUI would be an improvement on Chrome but a step backwards for Opera.

Edited 2013-02-13 18:10 UTC

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telns Member since:
2009-06-18

I've been using Opera almost exclusively since somewhere around the 5.x or 6.x days.

Releases 10+ took a big nosedive in reliability. Even so, I'm pretty saddened by this news. I'll still stick with the Presto versions as long as I can.

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Phucked Member since:
2008-09-24

Fair enough, however Opera has actually invented most of the modern web browser ui that I find useful (tabs, quick dial, etc). Its the engine that it usually fell short on. So I look forward to it being able to innovate without having to constantly fix their javascript support.


The first web browser with Tabs was InternetWorks in 1994

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phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Was that before or after Opera's support for MDI with a clickable bar to switch between child windows? While it wasn't a "tab bar" per se, it was the precursor to it.

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Its the engine that it usually fell short on. So I look forward to it being able to innovate without having to constantly fix their javascript support.

http://blog.chromium.org/2010/03/does-your-browser-behave.html ...perhaps the js compliance of Opera engine was just "too good" in an idealistic way.

Their engine has generally some good points, large part of why Opera is light on resources for example (most noticeable on older machines; also, this surely allowed them to host Opera Mini more easily - but maybe Webkit & present server hardware are now good enough for that)

Edited 2013-02-18 20:55 UTC

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