Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 7th Mar 2013 10:35 UTC
Legal "Apple vs. Samsung initially ended with a billion-dollar verdict in favor of Apple, but there have been plenty of wrinkles since. This week brought about another, as Nokia filed an amicus brief on behalf of Apple, Inc. in the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit. In the brief filed Monday, Nokia asked the court to permit permanent injunctions on the sale of Samsung phones that were found to infringe Apple's patents." In the meantime, the latest comScore figures for the US show that Windows Phone's market share actually declined during the launch of Windows Phone 8. It's pretty clear that, combined with the disappointing quarterly results for Nokia, the company is setting itself up for the future. In this future, Nokia's patent portfolio is worth more than their actual phone business, and as such, Nokia can't do anything but support Apple in this case, else the value of their portfolio goes down.
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RE[4]: It isn't about Samsung
by Nelson on Thu 7th Mar 2013 18:53 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: It isn't about Samsung"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

The US distorts this quite a bit given the sheer size of the market. Nokia knows they have a US problem. They do. However just because a US problem distorts global market share statistics, does not imply that they're not doing well in other parts of the world.

This Windows Phone isn't selling meme died with WP8. Definitively.

They have a long way to go, but small to modest sales does not mean nobody is buying them.

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WHAT?!?
by sgtrock on Thu 7th Mar 2013 19:26 in reply to "RE[4]: It isn't about Samsung"
sgtrock Member since:
2011-05-13

@Nelson:
"This Windows Phone isn't selling meme died with WP8. Definitively.

They have a long way to go, but small to modest sales does not mean nobody is buying them."

I STRONGLY recommend that you re-think what you're saying. The best analyst focused on the mobile market these days is probably Tomi Ahonen. He has been right time after time when other analysts looking at the smartphone market have been way off:

http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/02/so-whose-your-...

His analysis of the 2012 Q4 and full year numbers give some additional detail:

http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/02/so-whose-your-...

I hate to say it, but you are just whistling in the dark if you think Microsoft is going to ever be a serious player in mobile with WP8. Their Skype problem makes them DOA as far as all carriers are concerned.

Edited 2013-03-07 19:27 UTC

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RE: WHAT?!?
by Nelson on Thu 7th Mar 2013 20:14 in reply to "WHAT?!?"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I do not subscribe to the mental backflips Tomi does to arrive at his conclusions.

He's laughed at by everyone except Nokia haters and apparently OSNews. He's not insightful, influential, or even right. He's been so blinded by ideology that it's almost sad.

I read his blog years ago before the Windows Phone transition and he generally had something smart to say once in a while, between him plugging his stupid book everywhere and his annoying self worship.

http://dominiescommunicate.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/the-tomi-ahonen...

Holds the definitive list of fact checking on Tomi Ahonen. He's a fraud who routinely manipulates numbers. Fortunately for him, his interests line up nicely with those of people who are still burned that Nokia killed off MeeGo (like some on OSNews) or people who irrationally hate Microsoft (again, like some on OSNews). Snake oil salesman, in my opinion.

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