Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Mar 2013 16:13 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Mark Shuttleworth: "I simply have zero interest in the crowd who wants to be different. Leet. 'Linux is supposed to be hard so it's exclusive' is just the dumbest thing that a smart person could say." He's right. Lots of interesting insights in this blog post - I may not agree with everything Ubuntu does, but at least it's doing something.
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RE[4]: Comment by Nelson
by SeeM on Sat 9th Mar 2013 11:31 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Nelson"
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Canonical still isn't contributing, they are duplicating effort because they feel others aren't going in the right direction - they want to steer the ship instead of Red Hat, the relationship is far too much about competition between each other, they should be working more closely.

No way! There always been competition in Linux world. Vim and Emacs, Gnome and KDE, Mandrake and Red Hat, Sendmail and Postfix. They're duplicating efforts all along and that's a good thing.

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RE[5]: Comment by Nelson
by Lunitik on Sun 10th Mar 2013 18:33 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Nelson"
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Vi vs Emacs was really BSD vs GNU

Gnome vs KDE was about whether it was OK to use a closed toolkit, then gradually Qt became more and more open until finally its license is the same as GTK - yet even now there is a CLA to contribute to Qt.

Mandrake vs Red Hat was really Gnome vs KDE again.

Sendmail vs Postfix was actually a technical thing, sendmail is simply insecure, and postfix tried to fix that - hence the name.

These all made sense in the Open Source space, and again the stuff Ubuntu are doing is argued for similar reasons. No one wants to sign a CLA because it means a particular entity controls the future of the code. It isn't good enough that the community can fork for most, having many contributors with equal rights means no one really controls anything.

As George Carlin said, "it isn't a right if it can be taken away" CLA allows the rights to be taken away.

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