Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 23:00 UTC
Google "The family of Android malware that slipped past security defenses and infiltrated Google Play is more widespread than previously thought. New evidence shows it was folded into three additional apps and has been operating for at least 10 months, according to security researchers." Google removed most of it, but not before it was installed anywhere between 2 to 9 million times - finally some figures from Google itself, and not scaremongering by antivirus companies. At 9 million, that's 1.2% of all Android devices sold.
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No thanks.
by UltraZelda64 on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 01:26 UTC
UltraZelda64
Member since:
2006-12-05

"The takeaway for Android users is to consider running a smartphone antivirus app."

And we'll end up with the same problems that people have on Windows: Cell phones everywhere will run slow as anti-virus software sucks up CPU time and RAM, causing false positives like the recent Malwarebytes dud that downed countless computers, and in the end people will still get infected because they will feel "safe" and think they can do anything. Meanwhile, no program will successfully defend against all malware. Meanwhile, we'll get the added annoyance that this extra resource hogging sucks our batteries dry.

No thanks, that doesn't sound like the kind of thing I want to go back to. I already have a serious lack of storage space, I can't even install everything that I want, there's no way in hell I'll get an anti-virus program that will continue to get bigger and bigger with no end.

Edited 2013-04-23 01:28 UTC

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RE: No thanks.
by moondevil on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 07:34 in reply to "No thanks."
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

And we'll end up with the same problems that people have on Windows


Which we used to have on MS-DOS, CP/M, Amiga, Atari, Mac OS (<= X), C64, ....

Virus were never Windows specific, rather common to any consumer systems.

Even in more secured systems, the problem still persists given how consumers behave, assuming they can have root/admin rights.

Most people will just install whatever they can put their hands on, without pausing 1 second to think about it, regardless how they got the software.

From magazines, friends, acquaintances, strange looking web sites, you name it.

The only way is for someone else to look after what people are allowed to install on their own systems, but we can all imagine how it ends if taken too far.

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RE[2]: No thanks.
by MOS6510 on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 08:23 in reply to "RE: No thanks."
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

C64??? I know there were some proof-of-concept-wannabe viruses, but these required you to load them yourself and after you ran them you shouldn't reset or power cycle the computer (which people tended to do before loading a new program or game).

These "demo" viruses ran invisible and after a while caused some funny effect.

I guess they could be considered virus simulators and not real ones.

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RE[2]: No thanks.
by UltraZelda64 on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 18:35 in reply to "RE: No thanks."
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

True--viruses were definitely to DOS back in those days as flies are to shit, and no OS is 100% immune to viruses (except, of course, that massive majority written of them written for DOS/Windows...). But I think the "security" companies and their software have only got worse since those days, and I wouldn't trust them or their software these days much more than the viruses themselves.

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RE: No thanks.
by sithlord2 on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 07:58 in reply to "No thanks."
sithlord2 Member since:
2009-04-02

And we'll end up with the same problems that people have on Windows


Speak for yourself. My antivirus does not slow down my computer at all. I also run Avast Mobile on my Android, and I don't notice any difference in performance.

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RE[2]: No thanks.
by UltraZelda64 on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 18:23 in reply to "RE: No thanks."
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Speak for yourself. My antivirus does not slow down my computer at all. I also run Avast Mobile on my Android, and I don't notice any difference in performance.

[emphasis added]

Do you have any benchmarks to prove that your anti-virus software causes absolutely no slowdown whatsoever? And if it is using absolutely no processing power or memory, is it even running and working correctly? Somehow I don't believe that *any* program can use zero resources while running, especially an active anti-virus program.

I also find it ironic that at 5.4 MB according to the Google Play store, there's no way in hell that the Avast Mobile program that you mentioned would fit on my phone without uninstalling several *more* programs (as if I haven't had to get rid of enough already). Give it a few years (months?) and it'll explode to 10 MB... then 15 MB... just like they all do.

Again, I'll pass on cell phone anti-virus. But if it really makes you feel safe, then have at it. I, on the other hand, don't trust those programs or the "security" companies behind much more than the malware that they claim to "eliminate" (but typically fail miserably at, while potentially causing serious problems of their own).

Edited 2013-04-23 18:25 UTC

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