Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 23:00 UTC
Google "The family of Android malware that slipped past security defenses and infiltrated Google Play is more widespread than previously thought. New evidence shows it was folded into three additional apps and has been operating for at least 10 months, according to security researchers." Google removed most of it, but not before it was installed anywhere between 2 to 9 million times - finally some figures from Google itself, and not scaremongering by antivirus companies. At 9 million, that's 1.2% of all Android devices sold.
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RE: No thanks.
by moondevil on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 07:34 UTC in reply to "No thanks."
moondevil
Member since:
2005-07-08

And we'll end up with the same problems that people have on Windows


Which we used to have on MS-DOS, CP/M, Amiga, Atari, Mac OS (<= X), C64, ....

Virus were never Windows specific, rather common to any consumer systems.

Even in more secured systems, the problem still persists given how consumers behave, assuming they can have root/admin rights.

Most people will just install whatever they can put their hands on, without pausing 1 second to think about it, regardless how they got the software.

From magazines, friends, acquaintances, strange looking web sites, you name it.

The only way is for someone else to look after what people are allowed to install on their own systems, but we can all imagine how it ends if taken too far.

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RE[2]: No thanks.
by MOS6510 on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 08:23 in reply to "RE: No thanks."
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

C64??? I know there were some proof-of-concept-wannabe viruses, but these required you to load them yourself and after you ran them you shouldn't reset or power cycle the computer (which people tended to do before loading a new program or game).

These "demo" viruses ran invisible and after a while caused some funny effect.

I guess they could be considered virus simulators and not real ones.

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RE[3]: No thanks.
by moondevil on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 08:59 in reply to "RE[2]: No thanks."
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

In Portugal most 8 bit software was cloned and sometime it got fatter in the process. ;)

You could only buy legit copies in big cities.

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RE[2]: No thanks.
by UltraZelda64 on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 18:35 in reply to "RE: No thanks."
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

True--viruses were definitely to DOS back in those days as flies are to shit, and no OS is 100% immune to viruses (except, of course, that massive majority written of them written for DOS/Windows...). But I think the "security" companies and their software have only got worse since those days, and I wouldn't trust them or their software these days much more than the viruses themselves.

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RE[3]: No thanks.
by moondevil on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 18:53 in reply to "RE[2]: No thanks."
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

I fully agree with you.

On the other hand I sometimes have doubts when on UNIX systems if my firewall configuration is really secure or how far each application is free from exploits.

Having a microkernel OS, capabilities based or with process fine grained sandboxes will improve surely security, but they are no solution for dumb users that install everything from everywhere.

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