Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 15th May 2013 21:46 UTC
Google "Wired has obtained a copy of a cease and desist letter sent by Google to Microsoft today, demanding Microsoft immediately remove the YouTube app from its Windows Phone Store and disable existing copies on consumers' devices by May 22. The YouTube app for Windows Phone - developed by Microsoft not Google - strips out ads and allows downloading, both violations of YouTube's terms of service." Incredibly petty. Just come up with a solution, you bunch of kids.
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RE[4]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Wed 15th May 2013 23:42 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson
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2005-11-29


Maybe I need to draw for it for you. I was talking about MS providing similar access to their services. You mean to tell me MS did not support the DAVs in their consumer products? Oh yeah, they did not, did they?


No. Because they use the documented Exchange Active Sync protocol where they can, as it is superior on battery life for push email than polling IMAP.

This is a no brainer. I expect and hope to see *DAV support in Outlook for those who don't like EAS.


They started complaining and whining when Google pulled the plug (as in not willing to pay MS anymore, for the privilege to provide Gmail access to those that used MS gimped products)


Or those who chose to not use the Gmail app on iOS, as the iOS Email app used EAS to sync with Gmail.


Oh please provide a link for this because it's certainly news. Their page does not mention anything about XMPP support being "pulled"


Sure.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/15/4318830/inside-hangouts-googles-b...

Singhal says Google had to make the difficult decision to drop the very "open" XMPP standard that it helped pioneer.

Now, I await your excuse. Eagerly.

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RE[5]: Comment by Nelson
by silviucc on Thu 16th May 2013 00:11 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Nelson"
silviucc Member since:
2009-12-05


No. Because they use the documented Exchange Active Sync protocol where they can, as it is superior on battery life for push email than polling IMAP.

This is a no brainer. I expect and hope to see *DAV support in Outlook for those who don't like EAS.


That "documented" protocol is still patented and anyone that wants to implement it in their email client or server-side needs to pay up.



Sure.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/15/4318830/inside-hangouts-googles-b...

Singhal says Google had to make the difficult decision to drop the very "open" XMPP standard that it helped pioneer.

Now, I await your excuse. Eagerly.


Don't chop off the parts that do not help your argument. Here's the full quote:


With Hangouts, Singhal says Google had to make the difficult decision to drop the very "open" XMPP standard that it helped pioneer.


It was in the context of XMPP not being adequate for Google Hangouts a feature of Google+. They never say they pulled it from GChat (which is what Gmail uses). In short, Hangouts never, ever used GChat and XMPP


http://juberti.blogspot.ro/2011/07/hangouts-mailbag.html

The Chat in Hangouts is based on XMPP and Jingle + Google Sauce. They plan to open it up but might not do so. It was never open to begin with.

As for "an excuse". Seriously? You get paid to shill I don't get paid to debunk your crap. Go away.

Edited 2013-05-16 00:21 UTC

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RE[6]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Thu 16th May 2013 00:29 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29


That "documented" protocol is still patented and anyone that wants to implement it in their email client or server-side needs to pay up.


So? You pay to implement WiFi, LTE, and 3G.


It was in the context of XMPP not being adequate for Google Hangouts a feature of Google+. They never say they pulled it from GChat (which is what Gmail uses). In short, Hangouts never, ever used GChat and XMPP


Sorry, Google has like 14 Chat APIs, I actually meant Google Talk, which is being superceded by Hangouts (which itself is a FB Messenger/WhatsApp/Kik competitor now)

FTA it states that Hangouts replaces Google Talk. I'm not sure if Google Chat is tied into Google Talk, or if its yet another separate protocol.


As for "an excuse". Seriously? You get paid to shill I don't get paid to debunk your crap. Go away.


Proof I get paid to shill? I make money off of Microsoft platforms, but I also make money off of Apple and to a more limited extent Android.

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