Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Jul 2013 23:07 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones "Mozilla today announced that the regional launches of Firefox OS smartphones will begin soon. Deutsche Telekom and Telefonica will release the first Firefox OS devices, the ALCATEL ONE TOUCH Fire and the ZTE Open, soon. Individual partners will announce specifics about launches in each market soon." Lots of soons in there.
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RE[2]: I wonder...
by twitterfire on Tue 2nd Jul 2013 13:07 UTC in reply to "RE: I wonder..."
twitterfire
Member since:
2008-09-11

Not only I think that browser OSs do suck from a performance point of view, but I think that JS/HTML based interfaces and programming like in Tizen, Metro sucks equally.

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RE[3]: I wonder...
by Nelson on Tue 2nd Jul 2013 23:44 in reply to "RE[2]: I wonder..."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

While the HTML5 situation in Metro apps is a little better with Blend's tooling and the option of using TypeScript for development.

Its also helped out by WinRT components written in C++ or C# being callable by JS via projections. A lot of the computational heavy lifting can be offloaded to that.

But honestly, the Windows Store is around 5% HTML5 apps. Given the choice, I've seen a lot of developers opt for a native experience.

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RE[3]: I wonder...
by Lennie on Tue 2nd Jul 2013 23:55 in reply to "RE[2]: I wonder..."
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Unlike all the other attemps the advantage of FirefoxOS is, that it's only web-technologies. There are no other parts running on the phone. Just a Linux kernel and maybe wpasupplicant for handling WPA/WPA2.

And FirefoxOS is targetting the low-end could be a good idea, there are 6 billion phone users in the world and only 1.1 billion have smartphones. This is because smartphones are expensive. And lots and lots of people can't afford them.

Also if you look at the number of programmers in the world for all the different langauges together is 20 million, this includes everything from kernel hackers and embedded devices to business intelligence and 8 of them million are webdevelopers.

The number of people building apps for Android and iOS are in the couple of 100.000 range.

Edited 2013-07-03 00:08 UTC

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RE[4]: I wonder...
by moondevil on Wed 3rd Jul 2013 05:05 in reply to "RE[3]: I wonder..."
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Unlike all the other attemps the advantage of FirefoxOS is, that it's only web-technologies.


Ever heard of WebOS?

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To all the performance naysayers
by pklausner on Thu 4th Jul 2013 16:02 in reply to "RE[2]: I wonder..."
pklausner Member since:
2009-07-23

- I was also one of them.
Especially ~10 years ago, when Netscape dumped their working browser. *)
Instead they wrote a bloated cross-platform GUI framework with XML, XUL and whatnot TLAs. The browser was more like a demo program on top of it. Remember the horrible performance of the first Mozillas?

Now in FirefoxOS this framework is all that sits between the kernel and your HTML5 app.
10 years later (13, it's actually 13!) this passes as lightweight architecture...
I actually toyed around with the FFOS Peak model and was positively impressed. It surely beats the landfill Androids. And performance improvements for the desktop browser (like just reported) should mostly make their way to FirefoxOS.


*) Seminal rant over here: http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

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