Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 5th Nov 2005 17:51 UTC, submitted by AdriAn Avila
Novell and Ximian Rumors circulating that Novell is going to kill off its popular Linux desktop lines are completely false. [However,] Novell is making one large strategic change. The GNOME interface is going to become the default interface on both the SLES and Novell Linux Desktop line. KDE libraries will be supplied on both, but the bulk of Novell's interface moving forward will be on GNOME. "The entire KDE graphical interface and product family will continue to be supported and delivered on OpenSuSE."
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RE[2]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again
by segedunum on Sun 6th Nov 2005 00:52 UTC in reply to "RE: Cry Wolf - Yet Again"
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Member since:
2005-07-06

When you actually have a reasonable response to this give me a reply rather than cowardly modding down comments. That's not what the guidelines at OSNews state:

The statements in that article are made by a former Ximian Director of Marketing who really has nothing to do with Suse, the server people or are privy to what any of them are doing or the direction they're going. I don't give them much weight. Let's see what Suse continues to do, because most Novell and Suse employees and customers use KDE.

Also notice that he was never actually quoted as saying they were moving to Gnome - there's certainly no quote marks around the statement. It's something the author has put in. This is a well worked PR tactic from the past. You imply something and let the author run away with it. If you're questioned about it then you can say you were quoted totally out of context.

This happened a lot around the time of the Suse acquisition. There was one such article about Suse moving ('tightly stitched' in their words) all their distros to Ximian Desktop 2 before the ink was even dry on the deal. Remind me to ask the Ximian Desktop team how things are going.

Since they've laid off an awful lot of Gnome people this just doesn't add up at all, and seems like the usual PR spin a manager puts on things when his department (or clique) has been taken to the cleaners. It's also not possible. Novell and Suse's products use YaST, and currently use KDE in SLES and OES and things will need to be seriously rearchitected if that were to change. They still need to be supported as well.

These people are continually full of the brown stuff, and consistently so. You lot really do have minds like goldfish. We'll have to wait a few months to see what really happens.

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RE[3]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again
by segedunum on Sun 6th Nov 2005 01:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Follow the OSNews guidelines and don't just mod down what you don't like. Give me a reasoned response to this please, otherwise you're going to be seeing an awful lot of it and you're going to run out of mod points - even with all the accounts you have! People can also take that there is something in it as well ;-):

The statements in that article are made by a former Ximian Director of Marketing who really has nothing to do with Suse, the server people or are privy to what any of them are doing or the direction they're going. I don't give them much weight. Let's see what Suse continues to do, because most Novell and Suse employees and customers use KDE.

Also notice that he was never actually quoted as saying they were moving to Gnome - there's certainly no quote marks around the statement. It's something the author has put in. This is a well worked PR tactic from the past. You imply something and let the author run away with it. If you're questioned about it then you can say you were quoted totally out of context.

This happened a lot around the time of the Suse acquisition. There was one such article about Suse moving ('tightly stitched' in their words) all their distros to Ximian Desktop 2 before the ink was even dry on the deal. Remind me to ask the Ximian Desktop team how things are going.

Since they've laid off an awful lot of Gnome people this just doesn't add up at all, and seems like the usual PR spin a manager puts on things when his department (or clique) has been taken to the cleaners. It's also not possible. Novell and Suse's products use YaST, and currently use KDE in SLES and OES and things will need to be seriously rearchitected if that were to change. They still need to be supported as well.

These people are continually full of the brown stuff, and consistently so. You lot really do have minds like goldfish. We'll have to wait a few months to see what really happens.

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RE[4]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again
by Mitarai on Sun 6th Nov 2005 01:20 in reply to "RE[3]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again"
Mitarai Member since:
2005-07-28

Novell realised just like Red Hat that there is a market where users are not apassionated with DEs and use the computer like what it is, a tool, they own nothing to you or other KDE apassionated users with to much free time.

Got that?.

Now you go and do something productive instean of thinking in fake conspirancies, take some air, enjoy life, and don't get apassionated for a DE, ain't nothing but a tool, no more, but people like you are making it simple the center of their lifes and that is not a good signal.

Edited 2005-11-06 01:22

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RE[5]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again
by segedunum on Sun 6th Nov 2005 01:28 in reply to "RE[3]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again"
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2005-07-06

Novell realised just like Red Hat that there is a market where users are not apassionated with DEs and use the computer like what it is, a tool, they own nothing to you or other KDE apassionated users with to much free time.

Got that?.


No, because you can say exactly the same of people like you. I'm actually arguing something here and presenting something far more solid as evidence of what is going on. When you have something more than a fanboy response, feel free to come back.

Now you go and do something productive instean of thinking in fake conspirancies, take some air, enjoy life, and don't get apassionated for a DE.....

I would advise you to do the same, because that's not an actual reply to the issues raised. It's an impassioned and desperate response to something you obviously don't like. Got that?

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RE[4]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again
by japail on Sun 6th Nov 2005 01:53 in reply to "RE[3]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again"
japail Member since:
2005-06-30

If you keep spamming with this off-topic stuff then it will continue to be moderated, regardless of whether your original comment should have been. In your comment you insulted a nebulous group of people that must be the readership of this site, or the editorial staff. If you do either and it annoys someone with mod points, there you go. If you can't articulate what you mean without being obnoxious, don't be surprised when your comments are moderated down. It doesn't matter if there's a 1% kernel of truth in your post if you frame it in flamebait.

Instead of just stating that it is indeterminate as to whether this is true because the conclusion does not eminate from a direct quote, you opted to share with everyone your completely level-headed opinion of certain employees of Novell, and while yourself not having anything to with this, position yourself as a more authoritative source than someone that actually works there. For your grand finale you insulted either the editorial staff or the readers of this site. Let's not forget that you brought up YaST and other support matters that are directly addressed in the article, as reason for why Novell wouldn't transition its default desktop primarily to GNOME.

So please, keep whining and spamming your comment so that there is doubtlessly reason to moderate your posts down.

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RE[4]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again
by Lumbergh on Sun 6th Nov 2005 07:54 in reply to "RE[3]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again"
Lumbergh Member since:
2005-06-29

Haha, Sege you're in a state of mental meltdown. This is hilarious. There are professionals out there that can help you with your obvious problem.

No sege, de Icaza is not going to put a gun to your head and make you run Gnome. Get a grip man, you're a basketcase.

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RE[4]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again
by Innova on Sun 6th Nov 2005 21:09 in reply to "RE[3]: Cry Wolf - Yet Again"
Innova Member since:
2005-09-30

Perhaps your last two comments were modded down because you don't know how many times to hit the submit comment......I only need to read your comment once to make a decision about it. Re-posting it is simply annoying.

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