Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Jul 2013 12:01 UTC
Windows The general gist? A minor update somewhere this year, but the real update won't come until 2014. In the meantime, we'll have to... "Resuming..." ...settle for CardDAV/CalDAV support, some additional HTML5 support, and fixes for Xbox Music metadata. We were promised regular updates and an early access program for enthusiasts - but Microsoft failed to deliver, once more. For all intents and purposes, thanks... "Resuming..." ...to the switch to the Windows NT kernel, the Windows Phone we're using today has very little additional functionality to offer over what we were using on WP7 release day. I've been a Windows Phone user since WP7 release day, but Microsoft has lost me.
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Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Fri 12th Jul 2013 16:15 UTC
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

Major issues over at the WP team, this isn't defendable at all. They're shooting themselves in the foot, the face, and the chest by taking over a year.

This is unacceptable, and I find a lot about Microsoft acceptable.

The only bright spot is Nokia supporting WP8 with features through the end of this year, meanwhile WP development fell off the tracks at MSFT ever since they barely got WP8 out of the door in time.

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RE: Comment by Nelson
by moondevil on Sat 13th Jul 2013 14:06 in reply to "Comment by Nelson "
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

I bet Microsoft is heavily doing offshoring, like most Fortune 500 companies with the quality consequences we all know.

Another impressive fact is how small the Visual C++ team currently is. For the comments scattered around MSDN I would be it is not bigger than 10.

They are also currently looking to expand the team.

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Sat 13th Jul 2013 14:58 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson "
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I'm glad they are, and that Herb Sutter is so passionate about moving C++ forward. The pick up in speed in the adoption of the C++11 and beyond standards are encouraging too.

What is also encouraging is how they map a lot of the C++ intrinsics to WinRT ABI stuff, like a lot of their foundational collection classes map to STL collections cleanly. Same with their (yet another) string format.

On a more general note, I just think the NT kernel porting effort to the phone proved more chaotic than is let on, and some terrible program management screwed up some ship dates.

It really felt like WP8 barely eeked across the finish line, the SDK was months late for example. Given these issues, The Verge is reporting that Microsoft had specific issues with getting their new chipset support baked into the OS, especially around unlocked carrier-free devices being identified on the network.

Hopefully now that the guy who ran WP is in charge of Windows as a whole we'll see much more resources dedicated to the mobile effort. For a while it seemed WP was treading water despite Windows and not because of it.

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