Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 6th Aug 2013 17:55 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

In product lore, high profile gadgets that get killed are often more interesting than the ones that succeed. The Kin, the HP TouchPad, and the Edsel are all case studies in failure - albeit for different reasons. Yet in the history of those killings, nothing compared to the Apple Newton MessagePad. The Newton wasn't just killed, it was violently murdered, dragged into a closet by its hair and kicked to death in its youth by one of technology’s great men. And yet it was a remarkable device, one whose influence is still with us today. The Ur tablet. The first computer designed to free us utterly from the desktop.

'First' is debatable, but this was definitely an interesting product. It was far too complex though, and the simpler, more focussed Palm Pilot then showed the market how mobile computing ought to work - something Apple took to heart a decade later with the iPhone.

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RE: kovacm
by kovacm on Fri 9th Aug 2013 06:49 UTC in reply to "kovacm"
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The snobby windbag in that video is just as myopic as most Apple fanboys -- the history of computers in his eyes is limited to Microsoft and Apple. There were countless other significant players.

If you maintain that Apple invented anything, make a list.

So you did watch entire video?

Now whatch this

and you will stop this silly war who invented what.

Btw where did you read that I wrote that Apple invented anything?

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RE[2]: kovacm
by tupp on Fri 9th Aug 2013 07:33 in reply to "RE: kovacm"
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So you did watch entire video?

Hell no!

It would really help if you were merely clear and succinct in your points. Just linking a lengthy video of a ranting, misguided windbag sort of makes your point incomprehensible and ponderous.

I scanned it until I could find some sort of tangible conclusion. That's eight minutes of my life which I will never get back.

Of course, his conclusion is incorrect -- "cut and paste" did not first appear in 1984 with the Mac (I can't believe he took 14 minutes to get around to that claim). Cut and paste was included in: the Xerox Alto; the Three Rivers Perq (and it's various OSs); VisiOn; and the later Xerox Star. All of these versions of "cut and paste" existed well before the Mac and even before the Apple Lisa.

Incidentally, he is also likely wrong about giving Xerox credit for the GUI trash can -- I am fairly sure that Apple invented that (I have spent some time researching that very feature) -- it's one of Apple's very few innovations.

and you will stop this silly war who invented what.

There is no war. This is cut and dry. Everything is there for all to see what happened when.

When one does a little investigating, it is easy to see that Apple didn't really originate much

Btw where did you read that I wrote that Apple invented anything?

I am not actually sure whether or not you think that Apple invented anything, which is why I used the word "if" in the preposition "If you think Apple invented anything..."

However, you seem to be an Apple fanboy, judging from the fact that your first statement in this thread was, "What Apple invented???," immediately after which you linked the video ramblings of an insufferable Steve Jobs/Apple worshiper.

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