Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Sep 2013 23:33 UTC

Speaking at Microsoft's financial analysts meeting today, CEO Steve Ballmer was refreshingly realistic about the company's struggles in smartphones and tablets. "Mobile devices. We have almost no share."

Right. Now that Ballmer himself admits it, can we please settle the discussion? Windows Phone has been a failure up until now.

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You might want to read up on the behind the scenes at MeeGo, it wasn't the rosy picture that FOSS lovers paint it, in fact they were being sabotaged on not one but TWO front as they had the Symbian team backstabbing and headhunting their best talent for fear they would steal their thunder and Intel stabbing them in the back for fear that the ARM version would steal the spotlight away from X86. For your education...

I already know what was going on with Maemo and MeeGo. No one claimed it was a perfect situation but they had the ability to control what was going on as opposed to working with a vendor they had no control over. Symbian should have been taken out back and shot so to speak a long time ago. It doesn't matter how you look at it WP was the wrong way to go and now Nokia is dead. But IMO they deserved it with such a poorly managed company.

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How EXACTLY could they "control the situation" because I'd like to hear this. Intel owned half, so they couldn't just give them the boot and Intel was sabotaging, and they couldn't give the symbian guys the boot as that was the only product they had at the time.

So I'd love to hear how, with a broken and incomplete product that had half the coders working against them and the other half being headhunted by symbian, that they were supposed to "control" squat? I would also remind you of the screaming fits the public had when Elop killed Symbian, how many here screamed he was "killing" the company, you honestly think anybody inside Nokia could have done that? They would have been crucified.

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