Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 2nd Nov 2013 17:24 UTC
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Apple, Microsoft, and others, a little over a month ago in a letter to the EU, warning that the EU's new proposed unified patent law could lead to more patent trolling:

To mitigate the potential for abuses of such power, courts should be guided by principles set forth in the rules of procedure to assess proportionality prior to granting injunctions. And PAEs should not be allowed to use injunctions for the sole purpose of extracting excessive royalties from operating companies that fear business disruption.

Yesterday:

A new front opened today in the patent wars between large technology companies, as a consortium that owns thousands of patents from the Nortel bankruptcy auction filed suit against Google and other manufacturers alleging infringement. Rockstar, which is owned jointly by Apple, Blackberry, Ericsson, Microsoft, and Sony, filed suit in US District Court in Texas. In addition to Google, the consortium has alleged infringement by Asus, HTC, Huawei, LG, Pantech, Samsung, and ZTE.

They're not just scumbags - they are lying scumbags.

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RE: You forgot Google
by Kochise on Sat 2nd Nov 2013 19:03 UTC in reply to "You forgot Google"
Kochise
Member since:
2006-03-03

Whose FRAND licenses are they "abusing" ? Those of the same Microsoft that makes Google pay for each Android sold because abusing of a FRAND licenses, yet without hearing you being offended ?

Kochise

Edited 2013-11-02 19:04 UTC

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RE[2]: You forgot Google
by Shadowself on Sat 2nd Nov 2013 23:26 in reply to "RE: You forgot Google"
Shadowself Member since:
2013-11-02

Microsoft DID NOT sue Google over SEPs (Standards Essential Patents) that come under FRAND (Fair, Reasonable, and Non Discriminatory) rules. Whoever is spreading that crap is just plain wrong, including you.

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RE[3]: You forgot Google
by Nelson on Sat 2nd Nov 2013 23:31 in reply to "RE[2]: You forgot Google"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

It amazes me how people still don't fully grasp the concept of SEPs.

It probably explains why the blind eye os turned to Google's actions. If people stopped to think the destructive effect of undermining commitments made to standards bodies they'd be more alarmed.

Suing over SEPs is going thermonuclear in patent warfare.

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RE[3]: You forgot Google
by andydread on Sun 3rd Nov 2013 12:10 in reply to "RE[2]: You forgot Google"
andydread Member since:
2009-02-02

Microsoft DID NOT sue Google over SEPs (Standards Essential Patents) that come under FRAND (Fair, Reasonable, and Non Discriminatory) rules. Whoever is spreading that crap is just plain wrong, including you.

Your red herring about frand patents is falling on deaf ears and rightfully so. You see. MS and Apple decided to attack Google and its partners with frivilous dubious software patents. All Google is trying to do is defend themselves with the frand patents.

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RE[2]: You forgot Google
by kurkosdr on Sun 3rd Nov 2013 12:03 in reply to "RE: You forgot Google"
kurkosdr Member since:
2011-04-11

Whose FRAND licenses are they "abusing" ? Those of the same Microsoft that makes Google pay for each Android sold because abusing of a FRAND licenses, yet without hearing you being offended ?


Microsoft and Apple are smart enough to NOT make their standards open, but make them defacto standards using their OS dupoly (for example, try formating a USB stick in anything else than FAT32 or exFAT in Windows without downloading third-party tools).

Defacto standard = no obligation to FRAND the patents = potential to gouge anyone who implements said standard to interface with your OS.

Want more? Microsoft exchange, WMV, iTunes/UnFairPlay, Quicktime.... the list goes on.

PS: Anyone knows those "anti patent troll" acts are intended to screw small investors who can't bring their inventions to the public. Are you big enough to make products? Patent troll at will. Essentialy the big companies want to have the whole patent trolling business their own, not eliminate it. (what did you expect, really?)

Edited 2013-11-03 12:09 UTC

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RE[3]: You forgot Google
by Nelson on Sun 3rd Nov 2013 13:12 in reply to "RE[2]: You forgot Google"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Samsung, Moto, et all willingly made FRAND pledges. They did not have to.

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RE[3]: You forgot Google
by zima on Fri 8th Nov 2013 22:55 in reply to "RE[2]: You forgot Google"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

(for example, try formating a USB stick in anything else than FAT32 or exFAT in Windows without downloading third-party tools).

Formatting in NTFS works easily, just an option in the menu.

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