Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Dec 2013 00:05 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

We just discovered an issue in both and today which causes update of the store token required for accessing store repositories to fail. A fix for that has been pushed a few minutes ago: The update to version you might be seeing on your device soon contains exactly this one fix to keep store access working.

My Jolla arrived this morning, and I've been playing with it all day. It is by far the most exciting device and operating system I've used in a long, long time. When it arrived, the first update to the operating system was already waiting for me to be installed - and only a few hours later, another update is hitting the device. They have promised another large bugfix and stability update before the end of the year, with updates with new features arriving early next year.

These men and women know what they're doing. They're not overselling, and they keep their promises. A very promising start.

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RE: Other open platforms
by thulfram on Tue 17th Dec 2013 17:40 UTC in reply to "Other open platforms"
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Yes, Firefox OS is moving very fast. I think they now have phones in 13 countries, and a large base of open-source advocates.

Ubuntu says they have a hardware vendor, but no one knows who or where.

It looks like Sailfish uses QT-type programming, but their Wikipedia page list HTML5 but without details. If they do HTML5 apps, I'm interested. So far, the only 100% HTML5 app phone is Firefox OS.

Tizen sort of has HTML5 but their development environment seems a little complicated. That article about collaborating with Mozilla hasn't had much followup. The two cultures of Samsung and Mozilla don't seem like they would get along well.

One of the things I like about Firefox is their development environment. Write your app in HTML5 in Firefox, use the plug-in emulator to test it, use the emulator to load it on to the phone. Opposite end of the universe from MASM.

Tom, you can buy an unlocked Firefox OS phone for $79 on eBay (or at least I did). It's a developer phone, but it works, makes calls, plays music, games, surfs the web, etc.

And lastly, the Firefox OS has a very vibrant multi-cultural community. HTML5 opens the door to all kinds of people, allowing a new flood of creativity.

Okay, I'm a fffanboy!

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RE[2]: Other open platforms
by Morgan on Tue 17th Dec 2013 17:47 in reply to "RE: Other open platforms"
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Nope, you're not a fanboy until you start making outrageously false claims that it somehow mops the floor with the competition, butters your bread, discovers new star systems, etc.

I love the concept of Firefox OS, and it's on the table as a future long-term solution since it runs on phones compatible with my chosen network. I'm trying to ramp down my tech purchases though; after all I still have an N900 if I want to play around with an open phone. Wait, now there's a cool idea: FFOS on an N900!

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RE[3]: Other open platforms
by Lennie on Tue 17th Dec 2013 18:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Other open platforms"
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You want to ramp down your tech purchases ?

This is what I have:

I now regularly use a FirefoxOS phone, the Peak from Geeksphone and a Samsung ARM Chromebook with Desktop Linux (base install was ChrUbuntu).

One was 300 euro including shipping, the phone about 150 euro including shipping. Weight is 1 kg and 0.2 kg, for on the couch or on the go with always Internet. The Chromebook has a keyboard and gets about 6 hours battery life after many charges.

I think that is a pretty good deal.

(I also use a desktop at home and at work)

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RE[3]: Other open platforms
by bassbeast on Tue 17th Dec 2013 19:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Other open platforms"
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Question: Are the FF phones all still using REALLY crappy hardware?

Not trying to dis the OS, it looks nice, but it seems to be falling into the same slum that befell those Linux boxes that the BB retailers would carry. Take a FOSS OS, slap it on out of date hardware that you can't move anymore, call it a day.

If they put it on something with decent specs at an affordable price? Say something similar to what I've been seeing the $150 Android phones, 1.2 Ghz+ with 1Gb of RAM? Hell I'd be happy to try it, especially if they come out with a slider, but so far all I've seen are phones that have worse specs than my 2011 LG I got for free from the prepaid just for buying a phone card!

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RE[2]: Other open platforms
by Lennie on Tue 17th Dec 2013 17:48 in reply to "RE: Other open platforms"
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I think the official list is:

FirefoxOS: html5 apps only
Sailfish: HTML5-apps, Android apps, and QT-apps
Ubuntu: HTML5-apps, QT-apps (GTK-apps ?)
Tizen: Enlightment-apps, HTML5-apps and source-compatibility for Bada-apps

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RE[3]: Other open platforms
by moondevil on Tue 17th Dec 2013 18:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Other open platforms"
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And the winner is.....

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RE[2]: Other open platforms
by moondevil on Tue 17th Dec 2013 18:05 in reply to "RE: Other open platforms"
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My phone already runs Firefox and Chrome, no need for another phone.

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