Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Feb 2014 23:10 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems

So, convertibles. Laptop/tablet hybrids. I think their popularity started with early Asus Transformers, but since then, they've become a pretty big staple in the device landscape. Since I'm in the market for a replacement for my dreadful ARM Surface RT, I've been looking at this market segment again, and have noted that there's a lot of choice out there.

After the dreadful experience with the Surface RT, I'm steering clear of anything Windows RT-related. An x86-based convertible Windows 8.1 machine, however, still has some major appeal due to its excellent desktop application support that fits in nicely with my existing workstation. The tablet side of Windows 8.1, however, is still woefully underserved, with very few applications, and even those that do exist are of abysmal quality.

As far as hardware goes, the Lenovo Miix 2 10" (not to be confused with the older Miix 2!) has really grabbed by attention. It's supposed to end up at around EUR 400-500, which is acceptable. The Surface 2 Pro is also interesting, but quite expensive - although it does have a far better processor than the 10" Miix 2. There's also an 11" Miix 2 which sports the same processor as the Surface 2 Pro, but 11" seems a bit large in my view.

I've also been looking at Android convertibles, and here I run into a bit of trouble - most of them tend to run outdated versions of Android, and I'm really not looking forward to figuring out which of them have the best AOSP support. Do any of you have any suggestions here? Any models to look for? Experiences with custom, AOSP-like ROMs?

An even bigger question regarding Android on convertibles is just how well Android handles laptop-like computing. Does it do a good job of it, considering where Android comes from? It seems like to me that where Windows has the upper hand on the laptop side of the convertible, Android rules on the tablet side of it. Am I right in thinking this is so?

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RE: Only Half Joking...
by WorknMan on Wed 19th Feb 2014 01:49 UTC in reply to "Only Half Joking..."
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

Unless you have one of those big-ass phones that you need clown pants to carry in your pocket, I don't find phones very comfortable for extended web browsing, especially for sites that are not optimized for mobile.

They're okay for a 15 minute wait in a doctor's office, but if I know I'm going to be sitting somewhere for half an hour or longer, I'll bring a tablet with me. I find them useful for that purpose ;) I wouldn't want to sit with a laptop in my lap, trying to surf the web with a shitty trackpad; it's easier just using a touch screen.

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RE[2]: Only Half Joking...
by galvanash on Wed 19th Feb 2014 02:08 in reply to "RE: Only Half Joking..."
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

Unless you have one of those big-ass phones that you need clown pants to carry in your pocket, I don't find phones very comfortable for extended web browsing, especially for sites that are not optimized for mobile.


Just an iphone, but I don't use it for extended browsing. Point taken though.

They're okay for a 15 minute wait in a doctor's office, but if I know I'm going to be sitting somewhere for half an hour or longer, I'll bring a tablet with me. I find them useful for that purpose ;) I wouldn't want to sit with a laptop in my lap, trying to surf the web with a shitty trackpad; it's easier just using a touch screen.


I don't entirely disagree, but I would say having a non-shitty trackpad makes a world of difference... I don't miss a touchscreen at all.

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RE[2]: Only Half Joking...
by woegjiub on Wed 19th Feb 2014 02:08 in reply to "RE: Only Half Joking..."
woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

I've ended up wearing jackets with breast pockets at all times for that reason - a gigantophone (Note 3 in my case) is excellent for web browsing, and apart from email, that's the main reason I carry my phone on me.

Voice-calling is a rarely-used bonus feature :p

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RE[3]: Only Half Joking...
by WorknMan on Wed 19th Feb 2014 03:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Only Half Joking..."
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

I've ended up wearing jackets with breast pockets at all times for that reason


You obviously don't live in the deep south. I'd like to see you do that when it's 100+ outside ;)

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