Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 26th Jun 2014 23:07 UTC
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Google CEO Larry Page on privacy issues:

I'm not trying to minimize the issues. For me, I'm so excited about the possibilities to improve things for people, my worry would be the opposite. We get so worried about these things that we don't get the benefits. I think that's what's happened in health care. We've decided, through regulation largely, that data is so locked up that it can't be used to benefit people very well.

Right now we don't data-mine health care data. If we did we'd probably save 100,000 lives next year. I'm very worried that the media and governments will try to stoke the people's fears and we'll end up in a state where we could benefit a lot of people but we re not able to do that. That's the likely outcome.

The problem is not that people aren't open to the possible benefits from information gleamed from large piles of data. No, the problem is that both governments and companies alike have a history of abusing and/or leaking this data. In other words, the people's skepticism is entirely the industry's own fault.

Introspection, Mr. Page.

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RE[3]: Health care
by maccouch on Fri 27th Jun 2014 08:46 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Health care"
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2012-03-14

So if something has been done badly historically, let's never try anything ever.


"so if i chopped off 9 of my fingers playing Five Finger Fillet with a broad axe, why not try it again. i'm sure nothing wrong will come out of it as we shouldn't learn from the mistakes we once made..."


alternatively, if something has been done historically and it went "badly", yes it's a really, really!!, great clue that you shouldn't do it again unless you've actually understood what went wrong before, why it went wrong and you managed to address the cause of why it went wrong.

hint: we haven't managed to address human corruption, greed, careleness and usage of blackmail as a weapon for nefarious purposes...

Edited 2014-06-27 08:48 UTC

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RE[4]: Health care
by kwan_e on Fri 27th Jun 2014 10:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Health care"
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2007-02-18

"So if something has been done badly historically, let's never try anything ever.


"so if i chopped off 9 of my fingers playing Five Finger Fillet with a broad axe, why not try it again. i'm sure nothing wrong will come out of it as we shouldn't learn from the mistakes we once made..."
"

Your example is stupid.

You may as well say humans should never have learnt how to use fire. Or steel. Or gunpowder. Or nuclear energy.

No one said never to learn from mistakes. The whole point of TRYING is to learn from mistakes. You're advocating to NEVER EVEN try for fear of making mistakes.

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RE[5]: Health care
by maccouch on Sat 28th Jun 2014 07:14 in reply to "RE[4]: Health care"
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2012-03-14

actually you should try to read the comment better next time. what i said is that **after** you tried something a couple of times and it failed spectacularly it's insane* to keep insisting on it without trying to understand what changed or at least changing it in a significant way.

having vast amounts of personal data in the hands of a corporation or a state has never yielded anything other than bad results and a shift of power from the "information providers" to the "information holders". Why exactly would that be different now? what makes Google a better recipent and a health data a different set of data than those than preceded it?


* it's actually the pure definition of insanity to try to do something all over again and expect a different outcome every time...

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