Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Aug 2015 23:18 UTC
Windows This hit the news yesterday.

Microsoft released Windows 10 four weeks ago today, and now the company is providing a fresh update on its upgrade figures. 14 million machines had been upgraded to Windows 10 within 24 hours of the operating system release last month, and that figure has now risen to more than 75 million in just four weeks.

As somebody who uses Windows every day, and who upgraded to Windows 10 a few weeks before it was released, let me make a statement about all the positive Windows 10 reviews that not everyone is going to like. There are only two reasons Windows 10 is getting positive reviews. First, because it's free. This one's a given. Second, and more importantly: Windows 10 is getting positive reviews because none of the reviewers have forced themselves to use nothing but Metro applications.

Here's the cold and harsh truth as I see it: despite all the promises, Metro applications are still complete and utter garbage. Let me explain why.

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Against the grain
by WereCatf on Fri 28th Aug 2015 03:20 UTC
WereCatf
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2006-02-15

I see peop..actually, I see nerds constantly banding on the hate-train on Windows 10 and I can't shake this feeling that for most it's partially because it's still cool and trendy to hate on anything Microsoft.

I am liking Windows 10 so far, it's faster than 7/8/8.1, but also uses a lot less disk-space -- very useful when you don't 500GB SSDs. I don't use UWP-apps, I do agree with the sentiment that they're rather awful and the whole concept is flawed, but for running regular desktop - stuff? Works just as well as the previous versions. The fact that the UWP-stuff sucks doesn't mean the whole OS sucks or that it's unuseable.

I am apparently going against the grain here, at least if one looks at the usual OSNews-comments, but I don't have any good reason to downgrade to any previous Windows - version nor do I have a need to be constantly writing negative comments everywhere about it.

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RE: Against the grain
by tidux on Fri 28th Aug 2015 03:40 in reply to "Against the grain"
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2011-08-13

The reason people are angry about Metro still sucking is that the ENTIRE PREMISE of Windows Phone, the new Xbox UI, and Windows >= 8 was that Metro was going to be the One True Unifying Graphical API across all Microsoft products except for games, where DirectX is still king. In the time that Metro has still sucked, we've seen GNOME 3, KDE 4, and KDE 5 all go from horrible to really good, Android and iOS have grown more desktop-like multitasking capabilities and better graphical performance via Vulkan and Metal respectively, and Haiku OS go from a kludgy, shaky Alpha 4 to a really good looking fully package managed Beta release (in a few months). There's just no excuse for Metro sucking this hard with all the time and money Microsoft has been throwing at it.

Edited 2015-08-28 03:41 UTC

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RE[2]: Against the grain
by WereCatf on Fri 28th Aug 2015 03:50 in reply to "RE: Against the grain"
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2006-02-15

I was talking about Windows 10, not Metro. You know, the whole OS.

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RE: Against the grain
by dpJudas on Fri 28th Aug 2015 04:02 in reply to "Against the grain"
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2009-12-10

I see peop..actually, I see nerds constantly banding on the hate-train on Windows 10 and I can't shake this feeling that for most it's partially because it's still cool and trendy to hate on anything Microsoft.

I don't read Thom's article like that at all. The way I read it, he evaluated and complained about the lack of quality assurance in Microsoft's newer work. How is that "hating Microsoft"?

The fact that the UWP-stuff sucks doesn't mean the whole OS sucks or that it's unuseable.

Sure, all the old Win32 stuff (that Microsoft has been treating as abandonware since Windows 7) still works great. They even made a few very important high-DPI bug fixes for it.

Considering how much emphasis Microsoft has been putting on how Windows 10 universal apps will rule the day, is it unreasonable to take a closer look at what they actually shipped?

I am apparently going against the grain here, at least if one looks at the usual OSNews-comments, but I don't have any good reason to downgrade to any previous Windows - version nor do I have a need to be constantly writing negative comments everywhere about it.

This site is called OSnews. The entire point of this place is to discuss evolution in operating systems. Why shouldn't Windows 10 be included in that discussion? Nobody is telling you to downgrade to anything.

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RE: Against the grain
by Lennie on Sat 29th Aug 2015 15:43 in reply to "Against the grain"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

But the question I have for most people using Windows 10:

why did you upgrade ?

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RE[2]: Against the grain
by WereCatf on Sat 29th Aug 2015 17:32 in reply to "RE: Against the grain"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

But the question I have for most people using Windows 10:

why did you upgrade ?


Why? Well, I tried out the the Insider Preview and saw that 10 is faster, leaner and uses a lot less disk-space than e.g. Windows 8. I have only 128GB SSDs both on my desktop and laptop, so the disk-space savings do come in handy. Also, I'm a gamer and it provides DX12, which will be useful once the games start to support it. On another note, 10's new Start - menu is again perfectly useable, so I don't need to be running Start8 or similar anymore.

As the only UWP/Metro - app that I use is Netflix and everything else is regular desktop - apps I just didn't have any reason not to upgrade, but I had several reasons (see above) to do so.

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