Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Aug 2015 23:18 UTC
Windows This hit the news yesterday.

Microsoft released Windows 10 four weeks ago today, and now the company is providing a fresh update on its upgrade figures. 14 million machines had been upgraded to Windows 10 within 24 hours of the operating system release last month, and that figure has now risen to more than 75 million in just four weeks.

As somebody who uses Windows every day, and who upgraded to Windows 10 a few weeks before it was released, let me make a statement about all the positive Windows 10 reviews that not everyone is going to like. There are only two reasons Windows 10 is getting positive reviews. First, because it's free. This one's a given. Second, and more importantly: Windows 10 is getting positive reviews because none of the reviewers have forced themselves to use nothing but Metro applications.

Here's the cold and harsh truth as I see it: despite all the promises, Metro applications are still complete and utter garbage. Let me explain why.

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RE[2]: Haters gona hate
by novad on Fri 28th Aug 2015 17:49 UTC in reply to "RE: Haters gona hate"
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As I see it most places are holding off on deploying this and preferring to wait and see how things pan out.
I too use Windows and develop software for it (Server side). If I have to replace my W7 desktop (that runs Server VM's) then I'll go to Server 2012 on the desktop.

I think you're wrong here...

There are two main types of Windows Users:

- Casual home user
- Corporate users

Casual home users are upgrading at high speed (75000000 is not ridiculous in one month) and they will most probably continue to upgrade.

Corporate users are sensible to 3 things. Deployment/Management costs, Support and application compatibility

Deployment and management costs are drastically reduced with W10.

Support... Mainstream support cycle has ended. We're now in the extended support cycle and this IS a problem in many cases

Application compatibility. I have actually seen very few problems. Companies are holding off on deploying W10 as a simple precaution... Once the 3~6 month "safety period" is past, there is a very good chance that adoption will be very good.

You should better get used to W10 in your every day's life. I don't think a plan B will be needed

Edit : Typo

Edited 2015-08-28 17:59 UTC

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RE[3]: Haters gona hate
by shotsman on Fri 28th Aug 2015 19:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Haters gona hate"
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Well, my compmany is not going to even consider W10 before 2017 at the earliest. Why? Some of our business critical apps don't work very well on W10.
If that is not being deferred I don't know what is.

Of the 75 Million users, how many are like me, did the upgrade and then reolled back to the previous version of the OS.
Hey,they can tick 1 on the upgrade list even though it was only a short time.

Thankfully, I will be retired before we get W10 foisted upon is. I know that W7 is the last desktop OS from MS that I will ever use. I know that I am not alone in that situation.

W10 could be the straw that breaks the MS back. It is not as if there are no longer alternatives to Windows.
IMHO the likes of Canonical and Apple will be watching this disaster playing out very closely. Again, IMHO they can only win from this debacle.

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RE[4]: Haters gona hate
by Lennie on Sat 29th Aug 2015 16:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Haters gona hate"
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What did they change in Windows 10 that breaks business apps ? Assuming the business app is a Win32 app.

Win32 development seems pretty much halted.

Or is it a .net-app ? I guess Windows 10 does come with a new .net-runtime ?

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RE[3]: Haters gona hate
by Lennie on Sat 29th Aug 2015 16:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Haters gona hate"
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Even businesses are not buying as much Windows machines any more:

"Chromebooks have overtaken sales of Windows notebooks."

Hey if you are developing for Windows, maybe, just maybe, you do need a Plan B.

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RE[4]: Haters gona hate
by moondevil on Sat 29th Aug 2015 19:21 in reply to "RE[3]: Haters gona hate"
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I never seen a Chromebook being used in any of the European countries I routinely travel to.

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