Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 19th Nov 2005 16:52 UTC, submitted by chrishaney
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The first preview release of (K)Ubuntu 6.04 Dapper Drake has been released. You can download Ubuntu here, and Kubuntu here. Screenshots can be found here and here.
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RE: Disappointment
by segedunum on Sun 20th Nov 2005 13:08 UTC in reply to "Disappointment"
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2005-07-06

How did an article about a (K)Ubuntu release degenerate into a KDE/GNOME flamewar? Sad. It's things like these that make me wonder whether OSS will ever become mainstream.

He, he, he.

Well, someone makes a comment about KDE's supposedly cluttered interface, or people marking comments down (which the Gnome supporters around here tend to do themselves):

you probably got rated down by the KDE fanboys. don't worry about it. its the time of the month for them, and to add ot their discomfort and fristration, they're having to come to terms with the fact that everyone is going with gnome and shunning kde.

and you've got a worse flamewar than usual - even with some interesting hand-drawn pictures by some fairly sad individuals!

When the hard work goes into KDE 4 and KDE has even better technology (which is Gnome's large problem) as well as the interface worked out (have a look at stuff like the Oxygen icons set) I really, really fear for these people. What the hell are they going to complain about?!

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RE[2]: Disappointment
by SlackerJack on Sun 20th Nov 2005 13:48 in reply to "RE: Disappointment"
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2005-11-12

There is nothing ground breaking or special about Oxygen icons set or even KDE4 since it's just a pipe dream, just a flashy name for a desent set of icons. The difference with GNOME/Tango is that it carries on the GNOME look and consistancy.

What "better" technology are you talking about?, if it was that good GNOME devs would use it(open source remember!). The fact that KDe are changing there kiddy icon set to something more grown up and business like shows it's turning direction (yet again)

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RE[3]: Disappointment
by segedunum on Sun 20th Nov 2005 14:09 in reply to "RE[2]: Disappointment"
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2005-07-06

There is nothing ground breaking or special about Oxygen icons set or even KDE4 since it's just a pipe dream, just a flashy name for a desent set of icons.

It exists now and is part of a wider plan.

The difference with GNOME/Tango is that it carries on the GNOME look and consistancy.

Tango is a 100% ripoff of KDE's Appeal project. Additionally, Tango is not supposed to be a Gnome project ;-).

What "better" technology are you talking about?, if it was that good GNOME devs would use it(open source remember!).

Gnome's developers have a serious case of NIH syndrome and will whinge like buggery about the license or find some reason not to use it. They wouldn't know good tech if it slapped some of them in the face.

The fact that KDe are changing there kiddy icon set to something more grown up and business like shows it's turning direction (yet again)

Grown up, professional, yada, yada, yada. Well, this professional crap hasn't exactly helped Gnome's popularity, has it? The point of Oxygen is to find a colourful and attractive balance between the current crystal icons and usability thinking.

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RE[3]: Disappointment
by on Sun 20th Nov 2005 14:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Disappointment"
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if it was that good GNOME devs would use it(open source remember!)
No. The whole reason why GNOME was started was not of a technical matter but purely because of politics. So why should it be a matter of technical goodness now?


The fact that KDe are changing there kiddy icon set to something more grown up and business like shows it's turning direction (yet again)
Ok, let me get this straigt. In this sentence you want to imply that a change from something you seem to consider (interpreting your choice of words) "bad" (kiddy icon set) to something better (more grown up and business like) is in itself bad.

Wow...that is deep.

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