Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Jan 2017 21:49 UTC
Oracle and SUN

Early December of last year, I posted the rumour that Oracle was going to end Solaris development. While the company denied these rumours at the time, there still seems to be something going on.

Rumors have been circulating since late last year that Oracle was planning to kill development of the Solaris operating system, with major layoffs coming to the operating system's development team. Others speculated that future versions of the Unix platform Oracle acquired with Sun Microsystems would be designed for the cloud and built for the Intel platform only and that the SPARC processor line would meet its demise. The good news, based on a recently released Oracle roadmap for the SPARC platform, is that both Solaris and SPARC appear to have a future.

The bad news is that the next major version of Solaris - Solaris 12 - has apparently been cancelled, as it has disappeared from the roadmap. Instead, it's been replaced with "Solaris 11.next" - and that version is apparently the only update planned for the operating system through 2021.

Read into that what you will. Sounds like maintenance mode to me.

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Maintenance or rolling?
by jessesmith on Wed 18th Jan 2017 22:30 UTC
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2010-03-11

Looking at the roadmap, I wonder if this means Solaris is going into maintenance mode or maybe Oracle wants otm ake it more of a rolling release. Microsoft announced a while back there would be no Windows 11, just constant updates of Windows 10. This move, with the name "Next" feels similar.

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RE: Maintenance or rolling?
by Qetzlcoatl on Thu 19th Jan 2017 08:20 in reply to "Maintenance or rolling?"
Qetzlcoatl Member since:
2005-07-06

You are right. It is all about naming not technologies. Solaris 12 just become Solaris 11.4. Do You remember when Solaris 2.7 overnight become Solaris 7. Now it is similar process but somehow reverse.
Take a look here - https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/containing/3078659

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RE[2]: Maintenance or rolling?
by Kochise on Thu 19th Jan 2017 10:43 in reply to "RE: Maintenance or rolling?"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Yeah, because when a software hits "50.1.0", with almost weekly updates, it doesn't sounds like it's a mastered project as a whole.

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RE[2]: Maintenance or rolling?
by kurkosdr on Thu 19th Jan 2017 12:23 in reply to "RE: Maintenance or rolling?"
kurkosdr Member since:
2011-04-11

You are right. It is all about naming not technologies. Solaris 12 just become Solaris 11.4. Do You remember when Solaris 2.7 overnight become Solaris 7.


I think most people are worried about the layoffs involved instead of the name change.

Let's be honest, Solaris was a goner even before Oracle took charge. Nobody really believed the whole OpenSolaris thing, because TheRealSolaris that the system they bought actually runs is a closed and deeply proprietary system, and the wounds from UNIX lock-in are still fresh (if not still getting created). So, CentOS and RHEL just replaced Solaris. Jonathan Schwartz's idea to keep the delivered product closed while at the same time open-sourcing some of Solaris's crown jewels for RedHat's pleasure was a disaster for Solaris. Oracle just accelerated the decline with their whole "Complete systems, engineered to lock you in together" initiative.

Now, on SPARC... Assuming you still need to buy iron instead of renting storage and computing from Amazon, SPARC got its lunch eaten by Intel and AMD because the chips were better value per buck. Plain and simple. IBM's POWER kicked it out of the HPC niche. The smart folks who build Top 500 supercomputers don't choose SPARC anymore and that tells a lot. SPARC got its butt kicked by ARM and MIPS64 in embedded because SPARC mandates the needless replication of registers for the mandatory and mostly useless "register windows" feature and just couldn't compete.


So, I can blame Oracle for a lot of things they did to Sun, but Solaris and SPARC were goners anyway.

Edited 2017-01-19 12:26 UTC

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