Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Sep 2017 21:52 UTC

iOS 11 has been released, and if you have an iPhone or iPad, you should really update right now. It's a big release, and especially iPad users will get to enjoy an overhauled user experience on their tablets. If you're not convinced, be sure to read the only two reviews you need: the one by fervent and enthusiastic (his enthusiasm for the iPad is infectious, in a good way) iPad user Federico Viticci, and the Ars Technica review written by Andrew Cunningham.

I've been using the betas on my 2017 iPad Pro 12.9", and it truly transforms how you use the iPad, to the point where I can use mine comfortably for work (translating, posting OSNews stories - like this one - and so on). No macOS or Windows laptop is as responsive and fluid as this iPad Pro, and the battery life of this machine is so good, it's probably illegal in 12 US states. Unlike macOS or Windows, I don't have to spend time fighting with iOS 11 to get it to do what I want, like fidgeting with windows, or anxiously managing battery life because otherwise I won't get through a day, or manage applications. And trust me, there's no PC - not even my own €4000 monster PC - that is as fluid and responsive as this iPad Pro.

The iPad Pro with iOS 11 is the truest realisation yet of it just works.

I'm not going to claim this is for everyone, or that you should ritually sacrifice your ThinkPad and run to the Apple Store and get the iPad Pro. However, after a few months of use, there's no way I'm ever going back to a traditional laptop. That being said - my only complaint about the 2017 iPad Pro 12.9" is an odd one: it's not a mobile device.

I am a sit down behind my desk kind of person. I work and compute behind a desk, with a large display at eye height and a comfortable chair. The iPad Pro isn't suited for this kind of work, as it forces you to look down, which due to back problems I cannot do for longer periods of time. What I really want is a small iOS box I can hook up a display, keyboard, and mouse to. Apple already makes such a box - the Apple TV - so I know they can do it. Mouse and keyboard support is probably coming to iOS over the coming years, and with the Mac Mini languishing, it feels like they might be working on just such a box.

I'd easily pay €500-700 for such a machine.

I know stating iOS is a great general purpose computing platform tends to be controversial - I myself have been skeptical about this very thing for years - but iOS 11 and the iPad Pro have utterly convinced me. This is the platform I want for laptop and desktop computer use. Windows and macOS feel like the past now.

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The experts are chiming in here Thom. It is time to admit defeat.

Your article was like being unfaithful in a elevator.

"wrong on so many levels".

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:

The experts are chiming in here Thom.

Why are other people better "experts" on my use of a computer than, uh, me?

You clearly have a bone to pick with the fact that I, personally, consider the iPad Pro with iOS 11 a great general purpose computing platform. For some reason, as evidenced by the tone of your comments, this offends or threatens you. This puzzles me, since I made it crystal clear I was not claiming this would apply to everyone.

The fact that you think of this in terms of "win" and "defeat" is very revealing. You seem to see this as a battle - a battle between what? If you regard this as a battle, there's no way for me or anyone else to win, because all you have to do is come up with some arcane thing the iPad can't do or can't do as well, and you'll claim you've "won".

A car can't shit as well as a horse. Clearly, horses are better.

Anyhow, I'm not here to win a battle - all I'm doing is saying that for me, the iPad Pro with iOS 11 is the inflection point where I can comfortably say I want this platform as my main general purpose computing platform - again, while stating very clearly that this will not apply to everyone.

But hey, if it makes you happy: you won. I'm not entirely sure what, but I don't really mind.

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avgalen Member since:

Thom, I think most people commenting here are powerusers and take issue with you here because you are calling 1 device with 1 version of the OS for 1 person (you) a "great general purpose computing platform"

Nobody is doubting that you love this device with the new OS. Nobody is doubting that you can get your work done on it. But you are calling it THE future instead of A future and call other platforms THE PAST, all of that in general.

Currently your setup wouldn't even support the most basic features that others need to get their work done. So no, this isn't a great general purpose computing platform yet, not by a long shot.

PS, when the iPad came out it had 10 hours of battery life while generic computers were powerful. Since then iPads focused on improving their power while generic computers focused on improving their form factor and battery life. Claiming that the iPad Pro is now ridiculously fast (it is) while claiming that generic computers are still clunky and ugly with only a few hours of battery life is disingenuous!

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yerverluvinunclebert Member since:

You seem to see this as a battle - a battle between what? If you regard this as a battle

It is a battle - it is your battle with reality that is the issue (to quote Monty Python).

because all you have to do is come up with some arcane thing the iPad can't do or can't do as well

No. Never said an ipad can't do it. It can. It is capable. That is a different argument. You are getting muddled and you keep adding things that were never said. Ipads are capable but they aren't the future as you espoused it. They just aren't for the reasons given. Respond to those reasons if you want but don't come up with crazy inanities like this:

A car can't shit as well as a horse. Clearly, horses are better.

That was just not required and non sequitur.

Anyhow, I'm not here to win a battle

Yes you are, you are only here to win the argument in the face of real hard facts. I think of this in terms of a win for hard facts not a win for me.

I don't really mind.

Yes you do. It galls you that you were called out on a well-written article that you really thought was a game-changer.

I like your articles, been reading them for years. You normally get it right and I am happy to support and comment favourably. This one though, you over-reached.

Factually incorrect, opinion and hyperbole.

Don't complain about the response, you are the one publishing, be prepared for the maelstrom if you get it wrong. I think you know you got it wrong and that's why you haven't responded to and accepted the actual points made earlier by me and by others.

Have a re-read from the top and see if what we are saying is really incorrect.

When I (or anyone) use IOS as my/their daily o/s for cross platform development (because it is the best) graphical design (because it is the most appropriate), running legacy apps on VMs for clients (because it is stable and an industry standard), doing movie and sound editing (on an affordable and powerful platform), doing 3D CAD design on a cost/timescale that precludes using any Apple kit at all, when it becomes the platform of choice for all these general purpose computing activities then I will come here and formally eat my hat.

Edited: to add the Monty Python link - easily done on IOS.

Edited 2017-09-20 14:10 UTC

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darknexus Member since:

Ah, the old "I proclaim myself and all who agree with me as experts" game. So typical of online forums. You guys all remind me of little kids on the playground fighting over who has the best toy. Let's just admit that the general purpose computer is any computer on which that person can do their general work, and have done with it. This pointless bickering has become an ego contest.

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