Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Jan 2018 17:51 UTC
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Microsoft is making a bigger push to keep students and teachers using Windows this week. At the annual Bett education show in London, Microsoft is revealing new Windows 10 and Windows 10 S devices that are priced from just $189. The software giant is also partnering with the BBC, LEGO, NASA, PBS, and Pearson to bring a variety of Mixed Reality and video curricula to schools.

Lenovo has created a $189 100e laptop. It’s based on Intel’s Celeron Apollo Lake chips, so it’s a low-cost netbook essentially, designed for schools. Lenovo is also introducing its 300e, a 2-in-1 laptop with pen support, priced at $279. The new Lenovo devices are joined by two from JP, with a Windows Hello laptop priced at $199 and a pen and touch device at $299. All four laptops will be targeted towards education, designed to convince schools not to switch to Chromebooks.

I'm not sure if these wil persuade schools away from Chromebooks, but assuming non-education customers can get them as well, they may be great little machines for running secondary operating systems on.

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RE[2]: Won't fly due to cost...
by TemporalBeing on Wed 24th Jan 2018 05:32 UTC in reply to "RE: Won't fly due to cost..."
TemporalBeing
Member since:
2007-08-22

"Sure it's $189 with Win10S; but Win10S is extremely limited so you're basically forced to either move to Linux (yeah!) or shell out more money for an upgrade to Windows which will likely require more resources than the device can support.

Win10S is limited to what Schools need them to run. Schools don't have to shell out more money for an upgrade to Windows. "Regular Windows" doesn't require more resources than "Windows S".
Photoshop probably requires more resources than these devices have, that is why you are supposed to run Photoshop Express on Windows S
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if you think only running one or two applications at a time is worth it, not having AD control in an enterprise environment, etc...then yeah I guess Win10 S is okay for schools...

But any school that uses Windows is going to have an AD setup to manage users, patches, etc - so no, Win10 S isn't sufficient. But then, they won't be relying on what comes on it - they'll be installing from their Educational Volume License that is costing them a ton of money each year.

But these aspects will make or break the devices.
No, there effectiveness for schools will make or break these devices (and Windows S).
Saying that "the success of a Windows S device is depending on how well it can be changed into a non-Windows S device" is silly [/q]

These devices are not effective for schools; their target audience won't be educational markets - it'll be home users ultimately, and may be small businesses.

Sure, they'll talk it up to education, but educators won't take 'em.

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avgalen Member since:
2010-09-23

But any school that uses Windows is going to have an AD setup to manage users, patches, etc - so no, Win10 S isn't sufficient

Windows 10 S is a variation of Windows 10 Prof and can be AD-joined or AzureAD-joined.

These devices are not effective for schools; their target audience won't be educational markets - it'll be home users ultimately, and may be small businesses.

Sure, they'll talk it up to education, but educators won't take 'em.

I work for several educators that are taking them, both on their current devices and on new devices. It is too early to tell if they are going to be effective for schools but at least the (some?) educators seem to agree that Windows 10 S is a better fit for education than Windows 10 Pro

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TemporalBeing Member since:
2007-08-22

"But any school that uses Windows is going to have an AD setup to manage users, patches, etc - so no, Win10 S isn't sufficient

Windows 10 S is a variation of Windows 10 Prof and can be AD-joined or AzureAD-joined.
" [/q]

Win10 Home is a variation of Win10 Professional; yet it cannot join an AD. Win 10 S is a more feature limited than Win 10 Home last I heard.

"These devices are not effective for schools; their target audience won't be educational markets - it'll be home users ultimately, and may be small businesses.

Sure, they'll talk it up to education, but educators won't take 'em.

I work for several educators that are taking them, both on their current devices and on new devices. It is too early to tell if they are going to be effective for schools but at least the (some?) educators seem to agree that Windows 10 S is a better fit for education than Windows 10 Pro
"

Most likely a bunch of managers look at the price and what it says on paper about Win10 S and go "oh, that looks good". But wait until they actually get the systems and they feel slow and unresponsive to their users and the features that are actually needed to make it work as desired and integrate into the district's networks just aren't there b/c that'll most likely be the reality.

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