Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 1st Mar 2018 00:51 UTC

Apple is launching a group of health clinics called AC Wellness for its employees and their families this spring, according to several sources familiar with the company's plans.

The company quietly published a website,, with more details about its initiative and a careers page listing jobs including primary care doctor, exercise coach and care navigator, as well as a phlebotomist to administer lab tests on-site.

This new primary care group - a group of clinical staff that is run independently from Apple but is dedicated to Apple employees - will initially only serve Apple's employees in Santa Clara County, where its headquarters are located. Initially, it has two clinics in the county.

Scrip healthcare.

This is insanity.

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RE[2]: Yeah but...
by Tony Swash on Thu 1st Mar 2018 12:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Yeah but..."
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I think this just part of something much bigger. I think Apple have a very long term plan to wire up health care in general and these clinics are just a proving ground for some of the technology, which also delivers a nice perk to its employees in a competitive labour market.

Note this from the 24/1/18:

For a more in depth analysis of Apple’s health strategy have a look at this from last September:

I wonder if this might, in part, date back to the protracted experience of Steve Jobs during his long illness, during which he was aghast at how primitive data systems were.

I love the NHS in the UK but recently having had a couple of protracted health care issue myself the thing that really struck me was just how appallingly bad and out of date the NHS information systems are. And that’s after the government has spent many billions on huge top down IT systems for the NHS all of which have essentially failed to deliver. Parts of the NHS still communicate by Fax!

There is still no way to carry a digital copy of your own health records around the various parts of the systems, so you are constantly being asked the same questions, which is then written down by hand on bits of paper, and you have to make sure at each stage of your journey through the system that each part has the essential information from the other parts. Its ridiculous that one cannot carry a secure copy of all ones health records on your devices. I think, and hope, that Apple is trying to solve this.

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RE[3]: Yeah but...
by mistersoft on Sat 3rd Mar 2018 15:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Yeah but..."
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Coming from the UK and having lived my child and early adulthood in Ireland I only have personal experience of two health care models:

UK NHS - free at the point of delivery. A fully tax-funded system available to entire population "free".
Ireland - VHI(Voluntary Health Insurance). Partly government(Tax)funded, and partly privately/insurance funded - but the higher-earning portion of the population. This model can be looked at from both directions: Either the state is subsidising the lower than would-be insurance premiums of those paying into the VHI system. OR (or rather AND) the external revenue source from the semi-private VHI patients ends up subsidising the medical-card care of those patients from lower income situations.

And I don't think anyone with knowledge of the UK and Irish healthcare systems would seriously argue anything other that that the UK system operates at a better and more consistent level.

Having the dual funding model in Ireland allows for excuses upon excuses.

My opinion - and of course it's right - is that "free at the point of delivery model" is the only one that makes sense. When the power holders in society are beholden to the national HealthCare system-for-all for their healthcare then they have a vested interest that it works and works well.
And as long as their are systems such ss Medical Cards or Medicare/Medicaid or whatever - then those with "less" are going to have their healthcare effectively subsidised one way or the other anyway; and that is absolutely right. Anyone with money it must be remembered has (usually legally) profited/taken that value creation of others for themselves - it's how capitalism works - so the very least society can do is payback those at the worker level with 3 things: health, education and security - in equal order. All should elicit no added payment and be provided for by the state. The state is good for absolutely nothing else. (regulations come under security).

Come on U.S. brethren: Ban the guns (from the police too bar maybe 5% armed response units) and Implement a "free" taxation-paid-for National Health Service for all!! Should be simpler than putting a man on the moon, you can do it!!


Sad it probably won't be in my lifetime.

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RE[4]: Yeah but...
by daveak on Mon 5th Mar 2018 14:35 in reply to "RE[3]: Yeah but..."
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It is not just a "free" (paid for via taxation) system that is needed, but the system needs to be non profit. Something the NHS is rapidly losing as more parts are handed over to the likes of Virgin Healthcare (who sue if they fail to win a contract), and the vultures of the big USA companies are circling overhead. This is why I deeply dislike the use of "free at the point of delivery". It is only part of the equation.

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