Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Jul 2005 21:21 UTC
Java IBM has begun participating in open-source Java project Harmony and intends to contribute code to the initiative, according to a Big Blue executive.
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No surprise here
by orestes on Thu 21st Jul 2005 21:34 UTC
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After all, IBM has never been very happy about Sun controlling Java.

RE: No surprise here
by on Thu 21st Jul 2005 21:53 in reply to "No surprise here"
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And... Sun will still contoll Java, which is just fine with me.

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RE[2]: No surprise here
by segedunum on Thu 21st Jul 2005 22:06 in reply to "RE: No surprise here"
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And... Sun will still contoll Java, which is just fine with me.

Well they'll certainly control their version of Java, but Apache has such mindshare and infrastructure aound Java that if (and when) this J2SE implementation gets up and running it could well turn out to be the reference Java platform. That could certainly be the case if open source projects can use it and redistribute it in the same way that they can with Apache software today.

Sun would certainly have their fears allayed about an open source version of Java fragmenting things. There would be one reference implementation, and it would be Apache's simply because everyone would be using it.

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RE: No surprise here
by nberardi on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 01:27 in reply to "No surprise here"
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IBM has never been happy in the past 20 years, since they have failed to capture the market in anything they do. They practically invent the PC as we know it today, they had to sell that division off because Dell posed a huge threat even in the business sector. I can't remember the last time I saw O/S Warp running. But yet that didn't take off either, even though it was light years ahead of Windows 95 and 3.11 at the time.

IBM is a total failure. Their business practices are overweight and the only way they can get back into the market is take control of Open Source Projects and call them their own much like Apple has done.

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RE[2]: No surprise here
by rm6990 on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 06:32 in reply to "RE: No surprise here"
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IBM has never been happy in the past 20 years, since they have failed to capture the market in anything they do. They practically invent the PC as we know it today, they had to sell that division off because Dell posed a huge threat even in the business sector. I can't remember the last time I saw O/S Warp running. But yet that didn't take off either, even though it was light years ahead of Windows 95 and 3.11 at the time.

IBM is a total failure. Their business practices are overweight and the only way they can get back into the market is take control of Open Source Projects and call them their own much like Apple has done.


Yeah, like they only have 90% market share in the mainframe market (which is going at a healthy rate nowadays). And they have made more of the top 500 supercomputers than any other company. But these supercomputers and mainframes are only multi-million dollar machines, not the $300 pieces of junk Dell makes, so obviously they are a complete failure.

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