Home > Debian > Libranet On Hold as Founder Dies Libranet On Hold as Founder Dies Submitted by Sammy 2005-06-02 Debian 39 Comments Libranet’s founder died on June 1st and all operations are frozen till later this month. Our condolences to Jon Danzig’s family. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 39 Comments 2005-06-02 5:29 pm VERY sorry to hear that……. 2005-06-02 5:33 pm about debian “…the fact that’s more of a community than anything else. These are people who are putting together something that they love, and working together, shows a cooperation that you just don’t find in commercial distributions.” 2005-06-02 5:37 pm Libranet is a beautiful distribution, he’s contributed a real gift to the linux community. I can’t imagine that the primary motivation was for Libranet as a business, more as a passion, and that’s something we can all try to emulate. I can’t help but wonder, given how young many in the Linux community are, how old he was. I would be especially tragic if he were young. 2005-06-02 5:40 pm I’m sorry to hear that it was a nice distro. My best wishes to his family and friends. 2005-06-02 6:17 pm Best wishes to all his famly and friends. I am truly sorry to hear about Mr. Danzig’s passing. –Jed 2005-06-02 6:25 pm Since 2.7, I’ve used Libranet as the main distro on my production machine. God, I am so sorry to hear about this. Jon was truly a gifted developer, and my heart goes out to Tal and Jon’s family. 2005-06-02 6:38 pm I really enjoy the work that people like Mr.Danzig provides for society. He will be sorely missed, but I hope that Libranet lives on so that he is not forgotten. I extend my condolences to his family and friends. -Ashley 2005-06-02 6:40 pm Very sorry to read this. I’ve always had respect for Libranet Linux, even though I’m a BSD user, I’ve always wanted to give Libranet a try. Now I will, very soon. And I hope that the company survives after this. -mojo 2005-06-02 7:11 pm Sorry to hear this news. It does remind us, though, that one-man-shows like Libranet and Slackware can’t be considered as serious options in the enterprise. Great options for roll-it-yourself professionals and enthusiasts, sure. But in the real world there’s just too much invested in one guy to take these products seriously. 2005-06-02 7:21 pm R.I.P. 2005-06-02 7:46 pm Anyone have any details? Someplace to send flowers? 2005-06-02 7:48 pm Jon managed to personally touch me simply due to my finally finding “my” distro, Libranet 2.8.1. My sincere condolences to his personal family and friends…thanks for the heads-up, Eugenia. 2005-06-02 8:00 pm I did not know Jon, but from what he gave to the community, Libranet GNU/Linux, all I can say to him is thank a BIG thank you. Dear Jon, Where ever you may be now, may God or whom ever you find spiritual comfort hold your spirit in their arms. May they comfort your family and those close to you. You will be surely missed, thank you for giving me an opportunity to be YOUR customer! I couldn’t ask for anything better. Rest well and God speed. Sincerely, Orlando, aka, Cycloneous The Warrior 2005-06-02 8:19 pm a sad day for the libranet, and linux comunity as a whole. i hope the distro lives on well in memory of him. 2005-06-02 8:30 pm I hope his hard work with Libranet lives on for a very long time. My condolence to his familey and the Libranet Team! 2005-06-02 8:36 pm He and Tal produced a thing of beauty in Libranet. My prayers go with Tal and the rest of the family. To those who wonder about Libranet ending, the distro relies on its updates from Debian’s repositories. I currently am typing on a machine loaded with Libranet 2.8.1. It remains fully up to date. True Debian compatibility is a decided plus. I’m not sure what will happen when Patrick Volkerding of Slackware dies, but I suspect the hard core “slackers” will continue installing updates via tar.gz files as they always have done. 2005-06-02 9:04 pm Libranet has always been one of my top two fav distros. First it was SUSE and Libranet. Finally I had enough of SUSE and it became Kanotix and Libranet. As from now on I am probably going to use only Debian, there are only 3 ways I trust to install it: the Sarge installer, Kanotix and Libranet. 2005-06-02 9:09 pm Quote: “Anyone have any details? Someplace to send flowers?” Try: Mr Tal Danzig & Family C/O Libra Computer Systems 1860 Langworthy Street North Vancouver BC V7K 1N8 My condolences and sympathies to Mr Tal Danzig and the entire Danzig family. Dave Pastern 2005-06-02 9:10 pm Libranet wasn’t, isn’t a one-man-show. It had three developers. And in any case it has a great community. I can’t foresee anything happening to it. 2005-06-02 9:35 pm Patrick has stated that he has a plan of succession in place if something happens to him. 2005-06-02 9:45 pm Is it really smart to put the entire business on hold and leave paying customers in limbo? From the website: In keeping with our traditions we will be closed until June 13th 2005 at which time Libranet will reopen. During this time emails may not be responded to and delivery of pre-ordered CDs will be delayed. 2005-06-02 9:56 pm if it was some cold company then it may seem strange but I know I use to ….chat… with libranet so I always felt like it was more of a family/community kind of thing and I think it is perfect that they “close” in respect… 2005-06-02 10:15 pm “Is it really smart to put the entire business on hold and leave paying customers in limbo?” Not quite true. The forum is still open and there is where many people go for help, support… Also keep in mind that Libranet is not only the 3.0 paid version, but it is also, and maybe mainly, the freely downloadable 2.8.1 2005-06-02 10:17 pm Darius….. do you have ANY human feelings? Libranet isn’t a huge corp. like MS or Apple…. It’s a family buisness.. It’s 2 ppl running it now… Of course it’s much harder to continue buisness when it’s so close 2005-06-02 11:11 pm Darius – in light of your comments i’ve reported that as abuse and I hope the moderators mod the comment down. I echo vecc’s comments and sentiments. Libranet is a Linux distro, but it’s also a community and a family. I think that Libranet and the Danzig family have every right to close for business and social activities during this time of mourning. Dave 2005-06-02 11:13 pm Darius….. do you have ANY human feelings? Libranet isn’t a huge corp. like MS or Apple…. It’s a family buisness.. It’s 2 ppl running it now… Of course it’s much harder to continue buisness when it’s so close It doesn’t really matter to me personally, but I could see somebody having a serious problem with their OS (esp if they’re using their computer for business purposes) and needing help, and the company pretty much just closed up shop for a week and a half. I mean, there’s not even a link to the forums on the front page. 2005-06-02 11:22 pm I think that Libranet and the Danzig family have every right to close for business and social activities during this time of mourning. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I am just questioning the lgic behind shutting down (or at not linking from the front page) the entire website, which I’m sure also has some support docs along with the forums. If I were a paying customer, I’d be a little pissed – not because they’re taking some time off, but because they didn’t have the common courtesy to allow people really available access to other avenues of support via the website. 2005-06-02 11:34 pm Though I did not know him, and I have not yet tried Libranet, I wish peace and comfort to his friends and family, as well as to his spirit. 2005-06-02 11:40 pm Our thoughts and prayers are with Tal and the rest of the family at this time. Richard Shortland and all the members of the USA Linux User Group. 2005-06-03 12:49 am Darius, putting aside any comment on your feelings, etc. try this link to the Libranet forums http://forum.libranet.com 2005-06-03 12:57 am We will keep the family in our prayers. 2005-06-03 1:26 am “Is it really smart to put the entire business on hold and leave paying customers in limbo?” Some things in life take precedence over business. I bet ten bucks the customers will completely understand this too. Long live Libranet! 2005-06-03 4:44 am > I can’t foresee anything happening to it. It sais on the page that he was not only their founder but their “president”, in which case his absence will inevitably lead to some change, even if only just a little. Its sad that this happened, especially since I hear that Libranet was a family business so this will be that much harder on them. 2005-06-03 5:06 am “If I were a paying customer, I’d be a little pissed – not because they’re taking some time off, but because they didn’t have the common courtesy to allow people really available access to other avenues of support via the website.” I am a paying customer and the thoughts you expressed never even crossed my mind. In fact Libranet sent me an email stating what had happened And telling me I could cancel my order if I wished to. How many companies would have the common courtesy to email you with the real reason your order was delayed? Quite frankly, I like their style. There are some things that are more important than business as usual and family is always one of them. Bill 2005-06-03 6:56 am As someone who has lost a close family member, I can truly understand and appreciate what the family is going through. They will be in my thoughts and prayers. I will most definitely purchase the latest Libranet offering to show my support! Libranet was the first distros I tried a couple years ago that actually worked. As a newbie, I found that it was very easy to use and just plain reliable. I’m thankful for a such a wonderful family business that brings so much joy and entertainment to so many people. 2005-06-03 8:48 am Most sincere and heartfelt condolences to all in the Danzig family. May you find some comfort in the number of lives that Libranet has touched. We are all that much richer for it. 2005-06-03 12:44 pm Journey well Jon Danzig 2005-06-03 12:49 pm My condolences… 2005-06-05 12:28 am this is so sad. i really don’t know what to say. mepis and ubuntu can take a hike. libranet is where it’s at. it is THE reason why i continued on with linux after my continued broken package attemps and bloatedness of mandrake, suse and redhat. it is such a shame. while i will miss him because of his complete gentleman ness to me and others and his wonderfully competant work, his family will miss him most of all. again, i am so sorry and wish his family and close friends nothing but peace and renewed prosperity in the days and months ahead. rope!