This site has created a rather large collection of OpenSolaris (Nevada build 16) screenshots. Screenshots guide you through the installation process, configuraton, kernel compiling, BFU-ing, etc.
Building, installing OpenSolaris in 100 pictures
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Even Red Hat abandoned the single panel approach. Why not stop copying WinXP and come up with something original? Gnome’s default layout is FAR superior.
“Launch”?!?! Depressing…
I think the bigger question people here would like to ask is why you’re hiding behind an anonymiser.
Regarding JDS, nothing wrong with it. Its not exactly MacOS X eye candy, but it is 10x better than the god-awful colour scheme and icon theme that Microsoft rectum plucked for Windows XP.
“I think the bigger question people here would like to ask is why you’re hiding behind an anonymiser. ”
Because he/she wants privacy?. what does that do with the question of JDS being objectively ugly. Comparing it with another ugly fisher price theme for Windows XP which it seems to have copied from doesnt make it better. Why dont these people get a decent looking one from art.gnome.org?
Originally the excuse was solaris isnt for desktops. now it seems Sun wants it to be used everywhere. so why dont you fix the fugly theme first
“I think the bigger question people here would like to ask is why you’re hiding behind an anonymiser.”
No one has asked me before so I am thinking it is just you who is curious. And no I don’t feel like telling why.
“Regarding JDS, nothing wrong with it. Its not exactly MacOS X eye candy, but it is 10x better than the god-awful colour scheme and icon theme that Microsoft rectum plucked for Windows XP.”
No I disagree. WinXP is far sexier than JDS. You complain about color scheme but I don’t see how grey and purple are any better than blue and green.
The point is that Gnome’s default layout is much more aesthetically pleasing. It also avoids idioms like “Start” and “Launch” for menus.
check here instead – http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=279&slide=3…
i find the look of JDS ok. i support 1 horizontal panel approach. (it would be ok to put a decent vertical panel too.) Default gnome is wasting precious horizontal space IMHO. make a test, open a firefox browser and several tabs, suddenly there are 7 horizontal bars in the gnome.
Gnome top panel
—
firefox window bar
menu bar
icons and url bar
bookmarks bar
tabs bar
—
Gnome down panel
What i do not lke in default JDS there is the metalic shiny close-minimize icons and sliders. 3D looking shiny stuff, exaggerated bevels and over use of Gradients are history IMHO.
> what does that do with the question of JDS being objectively ugly.
This is your opinion, and by definition it is subjective.
“It’s, like, your opinion, man” (c)Big Lebowski
Thanks,
Dmitri
Java2D Team
OpenSolaris != Solaris 10
“This is your opinion, and by definition it is subjective.”
Yes, it is. I happen to think JDS is the only good looking version of Gnome I’ve ever seen. The default Gnome theme is so grey and 90s.
You can defend your baby all you want but tell me that is really competes with ANY of the contenders for default here
http://live.gnome.org/NewDefaultTheme
Or tell me why Sun hasnt proposed this as the default for upstream GNOME which JDS is a fork from
Yeah, and KDE had both more features and is more easily configurable than Luna.
As opposed to OSX or Windows, screenshots don’t really mean much for Solaris (or other serious unices). You can install and run any other GUI.
For that matter I think XFCE is better than anything out there, including windows, osx, gnome, kde. But the final two are also configurable to great extent and hard to compare.
However I’d agree that the default gnome looks on Solaris is not as good as the new default theme of gnome. It looks too unprofessional for a server oriented OS.
For most of us, this series of screenshots is the first thing we see of Solaris. And well, people are going to give their opinion on it. Like me.
I think it looks ok, although I find it stupid how ‘Log out root’ is near the ‘launch button’, and the useful stuff like ‘This computer’ or ‘applications’ are way up by default. No ergonomy at all. Why does every OS do this? Why should we be asked if we really want to log out when we accidentally let our mouse slip while clicking start/launch?
The original article was about pictures of building and installing open solaris.
So what do the OsNewsies talk about?
How ugly JDS is or is not.
This discussion never even touched the original topic before heading off into irrelevancyT.
Alan.
“I think the bigger question people here would like to ask is why you’re hiding behind an anonymiser.”
Because his domain name ends in sun.com… he he
If you sit back and have a think about why Sun has used this theme I’m sure you will understand. JDS is often used in corporate environments either as a Windows replacement or on Sun Ray’s. It is similar enough in concept to Windows so as not to confuse its users, i’ve sat total newbies down in front of Sun Ray’s running JDS and they are completely fine.
Now i’m sure all the people whinging know how to theme Gnome, go for it, personally I dont like alot of other distro default DE’s but I can theme them in a matter of minutes. Therefore I don’t bother whinging about it.
Anonymous (IP: —.anonymizer.com) – Posted on 2005-06-22 19:20:25
“I think the bigger question people here would like to ask is why you’re hiding behind an anonymiser. ”
Because he/she wants privacy?.
Bullcrap. You have no privacy, get over it!
what does that do with the question of JDS being objectively ugly.
Want to make a comment, stand behind it rather than using 100s of different sock puppets.
Comparing it with another ugly fisher price theme for Windows XP which it seems to have copied from doesnt make it better. Why dont these people get a decent looking one from art.gnome.org?
Or, what you could do is download that theme and install it yourself; I can’t stand the default Fedora Theme, but do you hear me complain? of course not, I simply change it, just as I do when running Windows XP.
“The original article was about pictures of building and installing open solaris.”
Yes. You got the point.
97 percent of comments are totally irrelevant 🙁
Hey kids! It’s time to grow up!
“I think the bigger question people here would like to ask is why you’re hiding behind an anonymiser. ”
“Because he/she wants privacy?. ”
“Its intresting that you immediately conclude that I use Linux, which I don’t. Why are you people so hostile against Linux users?:
Because you are already anonoymous already. Why is your ISP so top secret? Do you work for a competing company? At least Sun proudly bears their name.
No, I do not work for Sun, nor do I have any sort of affiliation with Sun. However, I do respect their products as well as variou Linux distro’s and *BSD.
“Regarding JDS, nothing wrong with it. Its not exactly MacOS X eye candy, but it is 10x better than the god-awful colour scheme and icon theme that Microsoft rectum plucked for Windows XP.”
Uhm, no
But atleast in gnome you can easily change theme.
“The original article was about pictures of building and installing open solaris.”
The article/images are intresting aswell, I just wanted to answer those other guys. WHEN (yes, when, I WILL install Solaris sometime) I’ve installed Solaris I will come back looking for those screenshots to help me get opensolaris installed.
Up until now I’ve prefered the BSDs, however recently I installed archlinux since I wanted to be able to get software like TurboPrint (canon-printer) and Cedega (games). Archlinux lacks a bunch of packages thought, so I could try Ubuntu which doesn’t seem as “old” package vise as Debian or Gentoo since I have to compile a lot of packages myself now anyway so why not just use Gentoos ebuilds in that case.
However I want to learn and use Solaris, so I’ll just have that on another drive and see what OS will become my everyday OS, if it’s Solaris I will probably use Linux for games. Sure I could use Windows for that but uhm.. ;/
The reason I’m not running Solaris since long is because I don’t know much at all about your package managment systems, if there are any, I want to be able to easily install common GNU software. I know about blastwave and NetBSD pkgsrc, but I have no idea about how much of the later ones software which actually compiles. A guide in how to obtain common gnu software for Solaris would probably be very intresting for many users.
Also I would like to know how much information was removed from the regular Sun documentation sites for non-registered users. If I remember things correctly some of it where removed for public access after Solaris getting released free (as in beer)? I don’t know anything about Solaris so I do need decent documentation.
So get very short beginners guide up with maybe download instructions for the lazy people, where to get software and where to get information, and you might get a bunch of new users. Don’t over do it or make it TO easy thought since you’ll just get the windows/fedora/ubuntu livecd/magazine kind of people installing it, think it’s boring after 2 minutes and start complaining.
Personally I like the colors/themes of the KDE plastic windows and widgets (http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/vectorlinux/scree…)
I could do good without the bloated menu bars and some of the “filled” application windows thought, less is more. I hate the stupid windows-wannabe-placements of the close gadgets in most UIs, the close one should be placed on the opposit so you just don’t happen to press it. Also I hate program which minimize themself when being closed, how logical is that?
This is how it should look like:
http://pegasos.jinak.cz/clanky/dosbox/dosbox3.jpg
http://www.djbase.de/computer/pegasos/rechner/bilder/ambient_2.png
http://pixel32.box.sk/shot/pixel_mos3.png
http://www.pegasosppc.de/images/jacadcaps_00.jpg
http://www.pegasosppc.de/images/scrnsh.jpg
That is MorphOS on the Pegasos from Genesi, AmigaOS and MacOS Classic was right all the time.
Yes, it is. I happen to think JDS is the only good looking version of Gnome I’ve ever seen. The default Gnome theme is so grey and 90s.
First of all JDS does look horrible. It’s gaudy as hell. The scrollbars and the titlebars are disgusting and the “launch” bar doesn’t even match the rest of the environment. I guess To each his own but if anyone actually finds the default JDS attractive then I wouldn’t trust their taste.
An article about building and installing OpenSolaris and all the comments are about stupid themes that can be changed by a mouse click. This pretty much says what kind of ‘hackers’ come from the linux side.
I’ll be honest, I didn’t read the article, I just looked at the pictures. While I am 25% Hungarian I don’t speak the native tongue so this article only offered me pictures, ugly pictures.
Bullcrap. You have no privacy, get over it!
Actually he does have privacy and he is demonstrating that right now? What’s your deal?
Want to make a comment, stand behind it rather than using 100s of different sock puppets.
I get it now. You have no way to effectively attack his position so you attack him.
“First of all JDS does look horrible. It’s gaudy as hell. The scrollbars and the titlebars are disgusting and the “launch” bar doesn’t even match the rest of the environment. I guess To each his own but if anyone actually finds the default JDS attractive then I wouldn’t trust their taste.”
Yeah, and this is coming from an uber geek, just like I previously mentioned who are renowned for not having visual taste. What you call gaudy is simply stylish as compared to bland which you obviously prefer.
For godsake, would one of you Sun developers come in her and explain this to these geeks already?
Personally, I liked CDE. Simple and to the point. Fonts also looked better in it.
Don’t like the DE then change it! You do have a choice you know. Here’s some screen shots from blastwave.org of CDE, JDS, GNOME and KDE running on OpenSolaris.
http://www.blastwave.org/articles/BLS-0026/index.html
I’d allow for some DE setup frustration from users of Solaris 10 GA or maybe even Solaris Express users, but OpenSolaris users? If you can’t even change your own default DE then what possible good is the source code for OpenSolaris to you? Better yet, instead of bitching about JDS come up with your own distribution of OpenKolaris or OpenGnolaris and replace the default DE yourself.
I’d allow for some DE setup frustration from users of Solaris 10 GA or maybe even Solaris Express users, but OpenSolaris users? If you can’t even change your own default DE then what possible good is the source code for OpenSolaris to you? Better yet, instead of bitching about JDS come up with your own distribution of OpenKolaris or OpenGnolaris and replace the default DE yourself.
Well said.
Sure, KDE would be nice but as you and a few others say both the theme and window manager are easy to replace with whatever you want, so I would prefer if we didn’t got 1500 distrubtions a la linux but instead a good one with a good package manager and good documentation. The linux distribution freenzy is hilarious.