The Lycoris folks have posted a screenshot of the new, web-based, Control Center for their KDE desktop of the Lycoris Desktop/LX operating system. The Update2 of the OS will be released soon.
Lycoris Unveils Updated Control Center
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It looks like XP … why would they want to do that ???
Because their customers are people who want an alternative to Windows, and they have never used before anything else. Therefore, making them feeling confortable, is a very good strategy making the KDE desktop looking like XP.
Lycoris is indented for people who got no clue about the internals of computers or even worse, unix. Like my brother for example.
He was telling me that he wants to try Linux (just because a geek friend of his has Linux
. He had his first computer just a few months ago, and he still battles to learn Windows. He is not ready for anything else. However, if he really insists on installing Linux, Lycoris will be great for him /meesa thinks.
That makes logical sense. Still, it gives me the willies!
Sorry, but I still don’t see how making a visual clone is supposed to put people at ease. If I knowingly buy something different, then I’m not terribly surprised if it looks different. On the other side of the same coin, if I am exposed to two different systems that I have trouble telling the difference between, then I’m likely to become confused and frustrated. So is the look-alike concept really a Good Thing? I don’t mean to impugn the product’s efficacy, but I an curious.
I find it funny that users have no problem navigating diffrent websites, no matter how obscure/unlike other websites — at least they don’t complain about it.
When it comes to linux, though, “waa waaa, not used to this baaa”. Well, Am I the only one that think KDE or Gnome looks and feels more like windows, than diffrent webpages look and feel like eachother?
I also think it should not look like Windows XP. I use Windows XP and really love the operating system (witch is a first for me, all other Microsoft OS-ses suck IMHO). Linux has grown to be a really good alternative to the Windows platform. All the Linux users always shout out that Windows suck, then why would they mimic it’s looks? Of course you sould make it easy for newbies to migrate to Linux but would the community like the ‘start’-dummies of the Windows users? I do not think so.
Quick call Mulder, Microsoft is putting something in the water that affects the locals……
I think I’ll stick with WindowMaker.
I agree with Anonymous in that the WIMP paradigm is not all that hard to grasp. I disagree that Linux users are crybabies about different looks and feels. That’s something that comes from the Mac camp, which is reactionary to the extreme.
Personally I like some variety, but I don’t spend all my time ricing out my desktop. I know that some people live to make their desktops into some kind of fashion statement. KDE allows plenty to be done along those lines. In fact, you can quite easily alter KDE to resemble any popular OS.
We all have our opinions. The Lycoris people, rightly, should only care about them to the extent we are actually considering buying their offering … and the choice swings on the controversial feature.
Funny. In the screenshot, they still have remnants of the ‘RedmondLinux’ name hanging around. (in the titlebar)
When I tried installing this distro a couple months ago, it was pretty evident in a number of places (docs, some screens, etc.)
They need to clean that stuff up in order to give a more polished feel to their efforts. Especially since this is supposed to be a distro targeted at newbies who don’t necessarily understand different software and packages.
I imagine a recursive find through their source tree would unearth most of the culprits.
I’m aware that Lycoris is targetting users from Windows environment. Still, it shouldn’t try to copycat XP look because that’s just a rip-off other people’s work! MS already did that to Mac. Lycoris wants to do it to MS?
Don’t get me wrong, I tried Lycoris and like it a lot but am unsure about the way it follows XP-look
Just my $0.02 with tax.
is that a fact…
I tell you what the problem is: That I had to figure out for a weeks time in several forums how to get an unsupported NIC running under Linux with editing the configs appropriately, etc, etc… Same goes for graphics support. osnews.com web space is not enough to carry all the stuff you allegedly don’t understand but that make Linux a hassle to those not in the know…
some of you have a very strage opion about lycoris’ XP look. Its kind of like saying, “i prefer green apple, therefore i think no one should eat red apples.” There are plenty of distros that don’t look like XP. There is nothing wrong with one that does. Wasn’t linux supposed to be about choice? I think they should do everything they can to make lycoris look and operate like XP.
Because their customers are people who want an alternative to Windows, and they have never used before anything else. Therefore, making them feeling confortable, is a very good strategy making the KDE desktop looking like XP.
Its a stupid stragety. Mac OS X for example, is so different than XP. Yet XP-fanatic David Courney from ZDnet Achordesk fell in love with it, and was able to use it without much fuss.
Lycoris is indented for people who got no clue about the internals of computers or even worse, unix. Like my brother for example.
But why make an lame copy of another OS? Users are able to move to another UI as long it is properly crafted with usability experts which at least have a masters in pyshology.
He was telling me that he wants to try Linux (just because a geek friend of his has Linux
. He had his first computer just a few months ago, and he still battles to learn Windows. He is not ready for anything else. However, if he really insists on installing Linux, Lycoris will be great for him /meesa thinks.
See, he battles in learning Windows. Why? Windows isn’t the best user interface out there. So why make an lame copy of it?
Jeff Raskin, the UI guru who invented the Mac UI, and was the reason why Macs was so darn easy to use is looking for open source programmers to make an GUI that listens to his advice on usbality. Lycoris could indeed use it, in fact maybe hire him. But noooooo, they must make a lame copy of an UI that isn’t the easiest to use. Not only that, they are copying parts which have drawned most critism, like the Control Panel, while things like the Start Menu, which have recieve a lot of praises, isn’t even on the roadmap.
When it comes to linux, though, “waa waaa, not used to this baaa”. Well, Am I the only one that think KDE or Gnome looks and feels more like windows, than diffrent webpages look and feel like eachother?
I dunno, but my configuration of KDE doesn’t even look like XP :-). Lets see, my Kicker is on the top end of the screen, under auto hide, while I place the window list and the desktop choose, at the bottom, always on top. Works pretty good to me. Looks much better than default XP ;-D
I think I’ll stick with WindowMaker.
I dunno about WindowMaker, develop activity is really really low there.
I’m aware that Lycoris is targetting users from Windows environment. Still, it shouldn’t try to copycat XP look because that’s just a rip-off other people’s work! MS already did that to Mac. Lycoris wants to do it to MS?
Don’t get me wrong, I tried Lycoris and like it a lot but am unsure about the way it follows XP-look
To me, XP UI is not even close to OS X UI. Apple once complained that MS stole UI metaphors from them. However, UI wise, OS X and XP is so different. FOr example, between the taskbar and Dock – the Start menu have a list of the most frequently opened applications, while links to applications are in the Quick Launch, if you want it. Time and services are placed on the Taskbar – the system tray. At OS X, all applications and documents have their own place. For example, an link to open IE, and the window list of IE is in the same place. Time and services are placed on the menubar.
Lycoris stive to copy XP, on the other hand. It doesn’t stop at copying UI metaphors, it goes beyond to copy icons, look and feel etc.
(Besides, didn’t OS X’s Finder copied Windows Explorer?)
some of you have a very strage opion about lycoris’ XP look. Its kind of like saying, “i prefer green apple, therefore i think no one should eat red apples.” There are plenty of distros that don’t look like XP. There is nothing wrong with one that does. Wasn’t linux supposed to be about choice? I think they should do everything they can to make lycoris look and operate like XP.
I don’t mind them copying XP. But if they plan to move beyond a niche of “Microsoft hating, Windows XP loving” group of people, I don’t think they should just make a blatant rip off of XP. They can take ideas here and there, good ideas. But not to the point that one day, the only differeciating point between Lycoris and Windows is the logo….
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