For our benchmark suite, almost all of our benchmarks show an uplift for the new Ryzen 5000 Mobile series, some considerably so: our compile benchmark is +12%, Corona rendering is +18%, Dolphin emulation +17%, NAMD +8%, Blender +6%. To our surprise our SPEC2006 1T benchmark is +32%, accelerated considerably by the 16 MB L3 cache, but also because these CPUs also support a higher instantaneous power turbo modes than the previous generation. This enables some competitive performance numbers against Intel’s Tiger Lake platform in single thread focused tests (AMD wins on multithread quite easily).
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Now just release desktop APU and get my money! I do not need power-wasting discrete GPU just to watch movies or play on Stadia. I’d like to replace my decade old (media) server which currently has Intel CPU with integrated CPU, and Intel lost my trust.
Who cares about these paper launches. It is quite a frustrating experience wanting to buy these new CPUs and realizing it is like chasing unicorns.
Veto,
I hear that. It’s the same deal with graphics cards, it’s virtually impossible to buy them from authorized dealers. The only people who carry them at all are scalpers.
I’ve been on EVGA’s product waiting list since november but they just are not producing enough supply to meet demand. Some in the community are tracking the queue movement and the more popular products are still severely backlogged from September.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NrR71ipaJktCzT1pWj9FWxNHGWAbcxMorvRvEPaPh48/preview?pru=AAABd251BXc*ZfFUlDf9UywSfgZYjWVCfA
Alright, so we just have to wait a bit longer… but then you see the queue only advances a couple seconds per per day/week. At this rate I could well be years away from reaching my queue position, that’s no joke.
People always say don’t buy from scalpers, and I tend to agree, but when there is virtually no chance of buying the product through a legitimate supplier what the hell can one do? I am trying to get more cuda development work, but nobody can even buy the hardware now. If my current hardware dies I’d be screwed. The card I bought three years ago is going used for nearly 100% of what I paid and these used cards don’t have any kind of warranty.
And to make matters oh so much worse, the trump administration let this year’s exemptions to their 25% import tariffs expire on many PC components including GPUs.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/7/22217206/nvidia-amd-gpu-trump-tax-china-tariff-exemption-expire
We’re already hurting from supply & demand, another 25% tax is exactly what consumers needed.
/sarcasm
No clue what the biden administration is going to do, but this is painful.
I have a long list of things I need to source and the pandemic has put the kybosh on a lot of this as my spare income flatlined so I have had to prioritise. As much as I would like to get some things done I have kicked these down the road and pulled other things forward. I’m also looking at some discretionary expenses I really need to cut which can shift resources to the new priorities. The thing is sometimes you not only need to refactor projects but refactor your mind. I can get a bit locked into things so going through a few weeks of “detoxing” and detaching myself.
There are some items I regularly source which I was concerned about. As things stand the market is depressed in this particular area and there is now an oversupply. I’m not even saying what it is in case people get ideas and bandwagon.
If you’re worried about your current graphics card lasting and it’s mission critical I would underclock it. It will be slower but last longer..
Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson had driven the French to some port or another for safety and had them under seige for three years. The French got lazy. While offshore Nelson trained his crew constantly. The result was a foregone conclusion. If it’s that necessary for you do as much desk work as you can. Hire some NVidia cloud capacity if need be. As and when the cards you need become available you will have had 1-2-3 years of practice. Just a thought.
I’m glad I not longer code now and am off the technology treadmill. I bought a few previous generation laptops (all identical models to keep things simple) and they do for me. I no longer do high performance graphics development or play games nor use much if any software which requires anything special. What I have now is better and uses less power than before. New stuff is even nicer but what I have is good for 5-10 years or more. I’ll wait until the leases are up and by something else when corporates release their stock onto the reseller market. By that time they should be giving these latest CPUs out in cornflake packets.
HollyB,
You keep saying that, although it makes me wonder what brings you to osnews, whose focus is essentially the technology treadmill.
I intend to use my hardware for a long time too, but without hardware stock replacing and growing is out of the question.
I don’t think there’s much reason to be optimistic about the future. The same high end GTX 1080 and GTX 1080 TI GPUs that were $500-$700 4 years ago are going for $879-$1125 new today.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3175736/geforce-gtx-1080-ti-arrives-nvidia-turns-it-up-to-11-with-its-best-ti-card-ever.html
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=gtx+1080
It’s true that sometimes you don’t need the latest and greatest and the top end cards several years ago can still be useful. But it’s really difficult to swallow such huge price increases for older tech that now costs more and performs worse than the new low end models manufacturers are officially selling today (if only they were in stock…).
https://shop.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/store/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-us&sorting=lp
I predict these high prices and shortages are going to become the new normal across the board. This is what we get for consolidating the tech industry behind too few fabs. Everyone, be it amd, apple, nvidia, intel, etc wants the best chips and everyone has to get in line and wait. Boy do mono-cultures suck. We were all concerned about intel’s monopoly while not paying attention to the consolidation happening in the background in the rest of the industry. We are in desperat need of more competition.
@Alfman
Technology isn’t always about technology so if you’re questioning my right to make observations and comment from the point of view of experience and different perspectives perhaps stop talking about your own politics too? Monocultures do indeed suck and I have life experience and a broader range of knowledge than many people in tech. Life isn’t always about the latest and greatest or “work loading” to the point of permanent “crunch” but management and human resources and marketing and politics and regulation and law and sociology and psychology and design and art and history and a bazillion other topics and bits and pieces. On their own “useless” bits of information are all very relevant even if they don’t fit the constraints of extremely narrow often subjectively defined “tech”.
imho “tech” is as boring as reading a telephone directory. It’s a means to an end. An enabler. “Tech” also has an ego problem and a sexism problem. More so in America than Europe, overall. You also have more of a monoculture problem as well as a regulation problem. Get that fixed *first* then you can question my point of view. because I’m not spending every moment on here justifying it.
HollyB,
I honestly wasn’t expecting my post to trigger such a response. It was an innocent question and I never meant to suggest you shouldn’t talk here. I’m sorry if that’s how it came across. Everyone’s got different experience and opinions and while we won’t always agree I do try my best to be inclusive and defend everyone’s right to be here including you. I like to think that by and large I’ve done this on osnews. N’est pas?
To be fair this is exactly the kind of thing that I find ironic for someone on osnews. I merely wanted clarity.
Well, not to make a big deal of it, but I don’t think that’s fair to me. I would like to better understand your experience as a woman in tech. I don’t come across many women in my field. I’ve thought about asking women like yourself directly about these things, but at the same time I hesitate to do so because I don’t wish to cause drama. That’s my dilemma. If I have to tiptoe around the questions that I have regardless of how innocent they are to me, then I don’t see it as a path to an effective dialog. You may want us to get things fixed “first”, but if you’ll allow a purely pragmatic observation: we need to talk about these things first before they can get better. Maybe I’m misreading it, but shutting down down the conversation the way you did feels unnecessarily hostile especially when I thought we were drinking buds, haha. For whatever it’s worth, a lot of us here actually share your socially progressive values.
Did this reviewer remove the heatsink without knowing this model is supposed to use liquid metal instead of thermal paste? That motherboard is probably toast now.