The first beta of OpenSUSE Linux 10.1 has been released. Yoo can get it for PPC, x86 and x86-64 architectures; each release consists of a whopping 5 CDs. This beta comes with (CVS versions of) glibc 2.4 and GCC 4.1, X.org 6.9, KDE 3.5, GNOME 2.12.2 and the 2.6.15 Linux kernel. SUSE Linux 10.1 Beta 1 also comes with the Intrusion Prevention framework AppArmor 2.0. Download locations are in the release announcement.
Remember those screenshots/mockups of the new experimental SuSE desktop design?
Is it not going to be in this release?
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No. KDE and GNOME just look the same as usual. I think the screenshots were more of a brainstorm and are not implemented in GNOME in anyway.
Remember those screenshots/mockups of the new experimental SuSE desktop design?
No. Those screenshots were just pie-in-the-sky rubbish.
I think those were mockups for [url=http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/]Novell Linux Desktop[/url].
I’m looking forward to 10.1, just ditched Arch Linux for SuSE. I’m really digging the hardware detection, and YaST is probably the best GUI-tool for system configuration in Linux(eventhough it is lacking in many areas). I haven’t used Mandriva yet, though.
I always thought SuSE to have a terribly small collection of packages, but once you’ve enabled third-party repos(http://www.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories) it’s pretty good.
My hope is that with the next release when it’s finalized it will offer a more unified GUI for both Gnome and KDE users. The reason I want this is I didn’t find it as difficult to transition from Windows to KDE on SUSE Linux as I found it difficult to transition to Gnome. I’ve forwarded several issues I noticed with a default installation of Gnome on SUSE Linux 10 to Novell. Such as having 4 browsers installed with a default installation is unacceptable as it causes clutter and makes the desktop appear bloated. Most of the issues can relate to YAST dependency on KDE files instead of being universal between the two desktops. This caused multiple applications to be installed that did the same task in Gnome such as Gnome’s Gedit and KDE’s Kwrite for text editing. After experiencing the issues I seriously can’t understand why Novell had once considered dropping KDE in favor of Gnome other than to explain to shareholders their reasoning for acquiring the company Ximian. KDE after all closer resembles Windows GUI and since Novell is competiting for both enterprise and private sectors for the desktop now mainly used by Windows then KDE seems the better choice.
Edited 2006-01-21 20:04
Hi all,
anybody knows if SLES10 will be based on it? And will be any OSS version of SLES?
Thanks in advance
Is there a technical reason they’re not switching to the modular release?
Suse used to a come with phat bundle of packages, but the Novell cut it down to slim pickings and still raised the price. I still think Suse was better off without Novell.
What did they remove that unpleased you? SUSE is still huge and it’s now free software.
I wouldn’t call it huge. MEPIS has a much bigger variety of packages and costs a fourth of the price. I’m not talking about the free versions, I’m talking about the $60 version which used to be a $40 version.
You have to keep in mind that both SUSE and openSUSE are available for download (AFAIK). So when you pay $60 you’re not buying a media set with N packages pre-compiled and ready to install; the price also includes cost of other things such as support.
I wouldn’t call it huge. MEPIS has a much bigger variety of packages and costs a fourth of the price.
SuSE is now free (OpenSuSE). SuSE has a large team of professional people behind it and always has done. My understanding is that MEPIS has one main guy and perhaps some others, but really there is no comparison in terms of numbers. Libranet showed what happens (very sadly) if a distro become dependent on just one person. Slackware had a difficult period due to the ill-health of its founder. Just my 2 cents, but these small little Linux teams are a risky long-term bet.
SuSE certainly has a pretty large number of files if you include the third-party packagers like packman, guru, usr-local-bin, etc. They must cover almost all the significant packages folks are likey to use. After that if you’re not satisfied, well, go Debian.
Anyone have any screenshots to post? I’d love to see if they did some refinement à la SuSE to it.
SuSE used to be one of my favorite distro’s around. I’m still impressed by it, albeit to a lesser extent.
Ah, the first distro love…
One thing disappoint me is Novell modified GNOME to
single panel that same as KDE.Most of SuSE users are KDE fans,But I love GNOME better.
It seems like disaster to me with single GNOME panel
i don’t use gnome, but the few times i used it, i LOVED the two-panel setup – i actually use that in KDE now, too.
it sucks they moved to a one-panel setup, indeed – it was the only real substantial usabillity improvement gnome had left in suse. with konqueror as an exeption, of course, as konqi is still the most crowded app targeting normal users i know of. tough its not much more crowded as IE is, so for ex-windows users it doesn’t really matter…
anyway, i really don’t understand Novell. they throw money on gnome (imho waste of money, as redhat and others that trew money in it prove it doesn’t really help) and then they change it so it loses its one advantage over KDE… tssss.
It only takes a few seconds to add a new panel in GNOME so this is not much of a problem.
You can really do that in SuSE?I can’t unless you hack it.Novell hard locks the panel!
Since I got it, I have no probs. What I didn’t get about SuSE 8.1 is with my card it wouldn’t go 800×600 resolution, but it would go lower & higher. Oh & can you shut off Power Man. in OpenSuSE 10, I haven’t found a way yet. I use KDE if that matters.
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SuSE certainly has a pretty large number of files if you include the third-party packagers like packman, guru, usr-local-bin, etc. They must cover almost all the significant packages folks are likey to use. After that if you’re not satisfied, well, go Debian.
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Last time I used it, Mepis *was* Debian unstable. That’s how a one-man distro has such a wealth of packages available.
-Gnobuddy