“For some reason, UnitedLinux attracts FUD the way a dog does fleas. But, now that the public beta is out, we can see that, well, its basically a GPL-compliant, high-end Linux server operating system. […] In short, this isn’t a Linux for playing with at home or running a small business. It, as the developers promised, is a Linux for business customers high-end needs. Now, the question is can UnitedLinux deliver on that promise. And, that is what well see in the coming weeks as potential business customers put this beta through its paces.” Read the article at LinuxPlanet.
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i wish them well. i’m sick of the amount of patches you have to do with MS.
And they’re not small patches and when you pay for your bandwidth it adds up.
I’ll certainly give united linux a try.
cheers
peter
Guys, remember this is not a distro in the ordinaery sense.
It’s a joint effort of 4 companies to create a base they can build distros on. UnitedLinux is mostly for developers, not to
for primary use but for developing to.
The idea is: develop/compile/make binary package for unitedlinux and it will install and run on all unitedlinux based distros.
This is perhaps not the greatest thing for opensource, one can always can make code compile on the diffrent distros or rather let the user compile it on his distro. For the commercial world its diffrent, no sourcecode available, and supporting/testing on all the diffrent distros is often no option.
…how will it match up to RH, technically?
Will RH and UL push Linux distros out of the realm of readily & freely available? (This is not a “GPL” compliance question.)
i wish them well. i’m sick of the amount of patches you have to do with MS.
And they’re not small patches and when you pay for your bandwidth it adds up.
I’ll certainly give united linux a try.
cheers
peter
If you’re going to Linux to try and find a replacement for Windows you’re going to be let down. Linux on the desktop is a pile of hot, steaming crap.
From what I have read also, the next version of SCO OpenLinux, will be UnitedLinux compliant. Meaning, UnitedLinux specifications isn’t just restricted to the server space. Hopefully soon, when SCO OpenLinux 4.0 is released, things should look up on the Linux Workstation front.
Then there will be two specifications. Redhat’s and United Linux. Companies then simply only have to write and test for those two specifications.
Humourous comments from a person who doesn’t have the balls to use his real name. Big man.
</sarcasm>
Please, I wish I was an studly and manly as you, and troll on a news board, then bitch and moan about issues that I know nothing about.
<sarcasm>
Care to say why “Linux on the desktop is a pile of hot steaming crap?” I’m using a 100% Linux desktop right now. I can do everything I can in Windows, including video-conferencing with my parents with my Quickcam, chatting with my friends on AIM, and browsing the very Windows oriented campus network. Every single piece of hardware on my system is supported. Even the latest version of Acrobat is just as full featured on Linux as on Windows! What do I give up? Specifically?
1) FreeType2 CVS breaks Xft’s sub-pixel filtering.
2) KDE 3.x is a hair less responsive than Windows XP.
3) The NWN client of Linux isn’t out yet.
That’s really about it. Once you learn it, Linux makes an awesome desktop system. And you don’t have to be Microsoft’s b*tch to use it.
I too am using a 100% Linux desktop and laptop…
Desktop:MicronPC Millenia XV
AMD Athlon 1ghz
775 mb ram
Nvidia TNT2 32mb video
SB Live! sound
Laptop: Compaq Armada M700
pIII 500mhz
14″ screen
8x DVD
Trackpointer (little thing in keyboard?)
(with 3 mouse buttons! sweet for linux!)
ATI Rage Mobiliy video
Lucent winmodem (which there is a driver for i found out but i have no need since it is on my network)
everything works great on both!
mandrake 9 is much more reponsive to me on both, though i’ve never had too much of a problem with that anyway.
i actually find KDE 3.x to be, at least, as responsive in terms of menu’s and other gui related stuff as the two windows machines i also own…and i usually turn of most of the eye-candy anamation crap in all OS’s…
do some apps load slowly…yeah sure, but i also have apps that load slow in windows too
default fonts aren’t that great but ones you install the ms fonts from corefonts.sourceforge.net and turn on aa everything looks pretty sweet to me.
is linux for everyone…NO, but i love it and have been using it for 4.5 years
again, if you aren’t willing to learn a new OS…don’t bother
From the press release, SCO would release OpenLinux for the server market. It has been a long time since they release an major update to Caldera OpenLinux Workstation. So don’t count on it.
But it isn’t a big deal if SCO releases an UL-based desktop solution, cause UL is built for enterprise apps (think Oracle, DB2, etc.).
I also use Linux on the desktop a lot more than Windows on the desktop. But it is stupid to say that Linux is *better* than Windows for the desktop market.
For example, how long did it take you to get your Quickcam to work and start talking to your parents…
Besides, this doesn’t matter in the long run. Windows would go the way of Mac OS, while Linux would be mainstream, unless some other totally free/ OSS operating system gathers up enough steam to beat Linux at its own game.
I didn’t say Linux was a better desktop OS than Windows (though, for advanced users, its competitive) I said it wasn’t a steaming pile of shit. Actually, it took me a week before I could talk to my parents. The webcam itself took 10 minutes, the driver was in the stock kernel, it was about 5 minutes to enable it and recompile (I’m in Gentoo, in something like Debian or Mandrake, it would have been there already) and another couple to emerge the software. The real issue was getting through the firewall/NAT on my parent’s end, since I don’t know that much about networking. That said, most desktop stuff doesn’t take me any time to do in Linux anymore. Of course, I’ve been using it since Slackware 3.x
I’m not too sure if you are familar with Caldera/SCO because from my experience, they aren’t like SuSE, Redhat or Mandrake (who is the worst offender of rushing things), who simply put out a new distro because a new package or kernel has been released.
There has to be a very motivational reason for releasing a Workstation/desktop edition + Server edition, hence, if you read reports regarding their workstation edition, the latest edition is 3.1.1.
4.0 will be released either by the end of this year or beginning of next.
Unlike some distros who will remain nameless, SCO doesn’t rush releases, and from my experience, their 3.0 doesn’t suffer from the usual x.0 ishness that most distros have, aka, mega buginess, and people saying “hold off until x.1 has been released”. Having used 3.0, 3.1 then 3.1.1, all of them have been rock solid releases.
Need I remind you that when hardware doesn’t work, it has absolutely nothing to do with the OS, but the laziness of the hardware producer to either:
1) make a driver
2) release the specs so that a person(s) can write a driver for the device
Creative, who refused to help the OSS community for years lost nothing when they opened up and allowed developers to look at the specs and design a driver.
As for software, Adobe SHOULD be the first company with its hand up porting their software. Most of their software is already available on a UNIX varient of some sort, all that would be required is compilation, remove some OS specific optimisations and replace then with Linux’isms, maybe replace the vial Motif interface with a flashy new GTK+ and using Mesa/OpenGL for rendering. I definately would purchase a copy of Photoshop and Framemaker tomorrow if they released a version for Linux.
Contry to public opinion, as a Linux user, I don’t mind paying for software. I like supporting companies who produce good software, whether they are small or large. For example, people say there is no easy to use CD burning tool,yet a small company like, Gear Software, who produce a really good CD writing software for Linux doesn’t get any lime light.
Maybe that is what the community needs, more advocacy of commercial products written for Linux. I’m still waiting on The Kompany to release Kobol, which also includes some nifty features + will be 100% COBOL compliant. Joy!
I was mistaken about UL and SCO and the desktop.
However, SCO haven’t issued any press releases about a UL-compatible desktop distribution.
Besides, if they do release 4.0 as you said they would, I would for sure buy it, if it is anything like OpenLinux 3.x right now. The only reason why I’m not using it is that it is too old, and therefore too slow (no speed improvements because the lack of GCC 3.x, KDE 3.x)
A port of Photoshop takes more than taking an old version, striping Motif off and placing GTK+ on top. An easier port is from Carbon to GTK+ or Qt (hopefuly Qt, please Adobe, please use Qt :-), but it would be hard nontheless.
besides, as for the hardware, i NEVER said anything about the hardware and generally hold the same opinion as you do.
Linux? It’s so hot right now!
> If you’re going to Linux to try and find a replacement for
> Windows you’re going to be let down. Linux on the desktop
> is a pile of hot, steaming crap.
I don’t think so, Tim. Linux runs just fine on my desktop,
thank you very much. I’ve seen enough screw-ups from
Windows XP at work to know I don’t want it at home too.
Looks like plain SuSE distro to me, except that they put UntedLinux everywhere and removed all gay graphics from the bootscreen and YaST (which is SuSE, figures).
Took a quick jaunt over to Gear Software because I too don’t mind paying for programs that work.
Downloaded the linux demo – looks cool.
Checked out the prices and damned near shit my pants.
$800.00 – $1500.00 US for software to burn a CD is too rich for my blood.
I thought the $39.99 for the basic windows version was a better price. Maybe they will introduce a linux version with similar features in the same price range.
Until then it’s Roxio on Windows
CUL
>>UnitedLinux includes such advanced features as IBMs open source Memory eXpansion Technology … large memory support … UnitedLinux can address up to 64GBs of RAM with up to 4GBs per process; and iSCSI… so that UnitedLinux servers can address iSCSI-based Storage Area Networks<<
>>is a Linux for business customers high-end needs.<<
>>Once in hand, you’ll need an Intel 486DX … with 64MBs of RAM and 500 MBs of disk space to give it a try.<<
Neat.
Aren’t these ‘advanced features’ actually part of the Linux kernel? Thus available on all distros? So what’s the fuzz all about?
I have been toying with the UL beta that I downloaded from Caldera/SCO, and as someone already said, it looks like SuSE linux, more or less. I am trying to write a review, but the problem is my wife got ill and she is in the room with the computer where I installed UL. Don’t want to make noise with moving the computer and monitor over to the living room. So, you’ll have to wait a little for the review. But yeah, nothing really earth-shattering.