The MacOSX 10.2.4 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for the following applications, services and technologies: Address Book, Classic compatibility, Finder, FireWire, Graphics, OpenGL, and Sherlock. It includes AFP and Windows file service improvements, as well as audio, disc recording, graphics, and printing improvements.
MacOSX 10.2.4 Released
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…what the improvements are?
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107362
for better info
Looks like the rumors that 10.2.4 would fix bugs in OS X’s prebinding utilities were unsubstantiated.
Still waiting for a fix, Apple…
“improved reliability for” … an Address Book?
Let me get this straight. At the beginnings of the 1980’s, with the “home computer revolution”, an Address Book was one of the things each and every company advertised as A Cool Thing(tm) for their computer (system).
Now, around two decades later, Apple is releasing patches for an Address Book? 🙂
Did the speed improve?
I don’t know if it is faster, but it put back in the Dock 3 icons that I had deleted from there (address book, ical and sherlock)…
I’ve heard reports of this (Apple adding icons to the Dock) but it didn’t happen here.
Curious.
FWIW, I keep my apps in folder groups inside Applications. The apps were updated, but perhaps the Installer didn’t do a thorough enough check when adding.
Sounds like a silly thing for Apple to do, anyway, though of course child’s play to remove.
I really can’t say that it’s faster either, however on difference is that the icons you state were returned to the Dock were not returned to my dock.
Weird.
On my G4 450mhz DP tower it broke toast, It wont even start, any other toast users out there haveing the same problems ? The icon will bounce forever just wont launch. Also it defaulted my resolution from 1600 to 1024, but I was able to correct that
other users also reported change of the resolution wihout their concent…
Quake3Arena test.
Q3A is a little jerky now… News at 11
no fix for powerbook G3 sleep/lcd backlight issues 🙁
10.2.4 also adds a new Apache module from Apple called mod_rendezvous_apple. This essentially duplicates the functionality of mod_rendezvous (open source), by allowing hosted sites to show up on Rendezvous-enabled computers.
Not all updates have to be flashy and neato. Sometimes they are quite mundain. Most of the time in fact.
utterly forgettable.. just like your post
Go play somewhere else, Please.
Apple’s OS X Address Book was initially almost useless. As time has gone on they have been bolsetering it, integrating it with Mail, iCal and Rendexvous. So no, they are not “patching” it to make it look better or that type of thing.
I have not read anything so far that speaks of speeding things up, unfortunately.
I use Toast Titanium 5.2 – I just made a CD-copy – no problems here on my dual G4. Toast works like expected.
Ralf.
…it put back in the Dock 3 icons that I had deleted from there (address book, ical and sherlock)
Get used to it. For OS updates, Apple’s updater will even replace the iApps I delete from my Applications folder. I can unclick them from a normal software update, but I can’t escape them w/an OS update… 😉
no prebinding fix, no finder fix, no real improvements…
There better be a 10.2.5 soonish.
you don’t develp software…do you.
Is it even worth buying a Mac this year?
–ms
Have you noticed any improvements after this update, even though there are no specific mentions of the prebinding problem? Had any crashes or “lockdowns” after the update?
Actually, there WERE some Finder fixes, but not the ones you were after obviously!
What exactly did you have in mind? I for one am hoping they will fix the hopeless handling of network drives whenever you dont disconnect them before changing network location or setup… Relaunching the Finder for this is just plain silly.
The day PowerPC 970 appears in Apple Store be sure it would be isolated in a so high expensive range than few enterprises could buy it.
Hi there,
I’ve a problem with my IBook with 10.2.3. From time to time I just loose my network connection, especially after waking up from sleep mode. ifconfig shows me, there is no ip assigned (I have a fix IP) to my ethernet card. Ping 192.168.0.1 (my gateway) reports me “no route to host found”, ping 127.0.0.1 functions well.
Any ideas and suggestions?
Thanks a lot
Anton
I don’t know if it is faster, but it put back in the Dock 3 icons that I had deleted from there (address book, ical and sherlock)…
i sense a chair-computer interface problem as this didn’t happen to me at all…
Man invented word, and calls it god.
Finally it show “Plugged in” instead of “Calculating” when the battery is fully charged
Ok, I’m a die-hard WinTel/Linux user … I used Macs for awhile, tho, about 5 years ago, mostly for desktop publishing.
Since then, due to my work, I haven’t really used Macs at all. All I’ve heard about them is that they’re “slow.”
I got my hands on a blu-n-white G3, 350 Mhz, with 768 MB RAM, 16 MB PCI graphics (ATI, I think?)
Installed OS X, added the 10.2.4 update, downloaded Sarari, Tex-Edit Plus, coupla other apps…
Started playing around …
Er … okay, a few things are kinda jerky … but SLOW? Are they nutz?
I don’t see it. I also have a 1.1 Ghz Athlon with 640 MB Ram, 32 MB AGP graphics, Windows XP … and this (I’m assuming 3-year-old) G3 is nearly as fast …
I can pickup a G3 on eBay for like $400 …
Why do folks moan about the slowness of these systems? Can someone enlighten me?
(I’m assuming that if I boot into OS 9.2.2, this G3 would prolly be faster … but I’m intrigued by OS X)
“Why do folks moan about the slowness of these systems? Can someone enlighten me?”
Well obviously you’re not putting too much of a strain on your system…
Since you’re a “deaktop publisher” kind of guy why don’t you try the following.
1. Start photoshop.
2. Load a 20meg eps file (i know 20meg is kind of small but lets pretend you’re doing a quarter page ad.)
3. Start Illustrator.
4. Start Quark.
5. Place your eps file in illustrator & quark.
now switch between apps.
Slow enough for you.
Do the same on OS9
From time to time I just loose my network connection, especially after waking up from sleep mode.
I have no tips, I’m afraid; the only thing that seems to work in my case is to reboot the system. Do you have a different tactic that works?
If it’s any consolation, this behavior appeared at the same time Apple fixed a bug that caused my iBook to momentarily hang with every dial-up, and eventually crash spectacularly. I reported the bug, back when I had Apple Care, & it was never resolved through Apple Care, but the OS was eventually “fixed”, apparently.
Sure Rockwell.
Morons like testu nagouchi think you should be able to have a 3 year old computer or buy one for $300 with just a little memory and be able to run lots of very resource demanding applications and have it run fast.
The clue here is that they don’t also tell you that Windows computers of the same age and price also suck at running all that software because they run very slow and actually crash and/or hang more often.
For MOST (read normal) users Macs and OS X are plenty fast. We don’t expect to have 5 HUGE programs running at the same time with old or under-hardwared (ok, not a real word) computer. So for most of us of the silent majority have no or little problems with our Macs. Except for probably the price of new ones. But then you pay more for a Mercedes than you do for a Chevy. You get in quality and “overall experience” what you pay for.
With that said. Macs obviously aren’t all about speed. Just like a Mercedes isn’t all about speed. It’s the overall quality of experience that Steve Jobs is selling us. Does it cost more than it should? Maybe. Most people couldn’t justify the cost of a Mercedes either. And yes, for people like testu nagouchi this is the truth. (Sorry to pick on you testu nagouchi but you were the one that answered his question.) I’m FAR from rich. I’d love to have a Power G4 tower Mac and 20GB iPod but I could only afford an 800mhz iMac. Even that was pricy for me. Now that we have it we love it. I just try not to think about how much it cost me. But I do know that I’ll have it a lot longer than any PC in my house and will be far happier with it.
I have two of the 17″ iMacs (flat LCD models). I installed the update on both of them last night (after reading about it on OSNews.com ;-), and when I rebooted my iMac, the video had reset to 1024×768 stretched. It looked wierd, to say the least, but was easy to fix. My wife’s iMac, though, rebooted fine.
The two systems are identical, purchased at the same time from the same store, with exactly the same OS updates and fixes. Go figure.
“Why do folks moan about the slowness of these systems? Can someone enlighten me?”
Sure. Resize a browser window. (Yeah, even Safari.)
Or, if you really want to inflict congnitive dissonance on yourself, resize iPhotos window.
Or start up a terminal, and compare it to staring up a terminal on windows or linux.
I’ve got a powermac, an xp box and a debian box, and I use the powermac all the time because I find MacOSX more interesting than the other OS’s, but only a zealot would claim that mac hardware isn’t slower than its x86 counterparts and, furthermore, that OSX isn’t significantly slower than other OS’s (Although XP seems slower than win2k).
Not a big deal, really. I’m much more concerned with Mac prices than Mac speed.
Cheers,
prat
OS X is still amazingly sluggish- even on a G4/733 with 1.25 gigs of RAM- in a couple of areas that OS 9 had zero problems with- window resizing (it’s so pathetic, it hurts) and Photoshop.
Admittedly, the suckass performance of Photoshop rests entirely on Adobe and the carbon API… but far more so on Adobe. I do huge amounts of 2d graphics and video work at my job site, and the performance of photoshop 7 sucks so fawking badly that we’re using Photoshop 5 in OS 9 for 2d image editing and OS X for all of our video work- the one major area in which OS X is, in every possible way, a hands-down fullblown improvement over OS 9.
That aside…. since the release of Safari solved all of the “sluggish as fawk webernet” complaints, my only remaining issues with OS X are its jackass insistance on file extentions (try saving out .php .inc .foo .etc from TextEdit) and craptastic 2d “accelleration” / optimization. In all honesty, Adobe’s asstastic application carbonizations and the fact that all five of my home machines are G3s are the only thing keeping me in OS 9 for any reason.
I’ll up to 10.2.4 during my usual monthly upgrade day… and I’m still waiting for 10.3.
//Or, if you really want to inflict congnitive dissonance on yourself, resize iPhotos window.
Or start up a terminal, and compare it to staring up a terminal on windows or linux//
//OS X is still amazingly sluggish- even on a G4/733 with 1.25 gigs of RAM- in a couple of areas that OS 9 had zero problems with- window resizing (it’s so pathetic, it hurts) and Photoshop. //
Yipe!
I’m gonna hold off on buying a Mac, then.
And, I actually did begin to notice considerable slowdown, once I opened about 4 or 5 apps — and those, not really big: I’m talking iChat, iMail, Safari, IE, and a few terminal windows. Resizing and switching back/forth between apps, I began to notice slowness in OS X.
Phooey. Maybe I should just upgrade the old 3dfx Voodoo 4500 vid card in my Athlon system for $70 …
You know what, I hardly ever resize windows. I get them to a size I want then leave them.
Same on my desktop – I have a B&W G3 too. Pop a $189 G4 upgrade in there and see it go really nice.
Some people get real upset when you point out the speed issue is, in truth, not an issue at all for most people. They just can’t stand it. Hence all the griping.
By the way, I love iCal.
All the window resize problems would be resolved if Apple implemented window resizing without showing window contents, like virtually every other windowing environment on earth supports.
No, that doesn’t solve anything. It just hides the fact that resizing is slow. For example, Opera does non-live resizing, and still, is slow redrawing on the resized position. It is just not instant as on other OSes.
Apple should consider integrating post-script processor in hardware, maybe in videocards.
Simple brute power of srock videocards hardly can help here.