The SCO Group today announced the release of SCO Linux Server 4.0 for the Itanium Processor Family, a high-performance Linux operating system designed for use with Intel Itanium 2-based systems.
I think SCO’s survival is a must. Their Unix scalability work is badly needed in light of the upcoming Windows 2003 server. I hope they win their suit against IBM, because IBM clearly stole their work on SMP, etc and put it in the IBM Linux (SCO Linux OpenServer was the first Linux with SMP, AFAIK).
I wouldn’t say “clearly stole,” nor would I say SCO’s bad publicity wasn’t something they shoulda expected. It’ll be interesting to see how a new product does at this point in time.
SCO will lose the lawsuit because it has no concrete proof that IBM stole anything, and SMP was implemented in Linux long before IBM got involved. SCO has alot to prove, I wouldnt buy SCOs product because A) I do not like people that try to take advantage of anyone else, B) I dont use Linux for anything, My Windows 2000 Advanced Server beats Linux in so many ways and Windows is the future. Linux right now is like Windows 3.0. But if I had to go Linux and use Linux I would use Red Hat.
Its not like i am against linux i personaly love linux even though i use windows as my main desktop. Either way SCO will die i tried their products and found that its nothing more than a bunch of other people’s work put together like in many other linux distributions except other distributions inovate instead of using someone elses work. By persuing this pointless lawsuit they are putting linux community at risk. The exact people that made them for what and who they are. Also, if SCO dies many of their patents will probably wind up in IBM’s or Microsofts hands which in my belief is a bad thing. If it was a company that would care about its individuals who created it and use it, SCO would drop this lawsuit and persue a more beneficial solution. Either way their products, which of course i have tested for many years, have never even come close to what others have to offer and that is the reason why they will not succede.
SCO sold out people who volunteer their time selflessly who make something that is light years ahead of what Microsoft can turn out although they spend billions on buying out the competition. Maybe if they spent a few dollars trying to create something that works instead of stealing and corrupting, then maybe somone who isn’t a fool will use their products for serious work.
SCO Linux 4.0 (using Intel’s compilers) was the operating system used by the Unisys ES7000 Aries 130 Server that just had its SPECfp Rate scores posted.
16-way Itanium 2 @ 1000Mhz has a SPECfp rate peak of 181, which is quite good. Slightly faster than Sun’s 16xUltraSPARC III @ 1200Mhz UE12K submission also this quarter. On the other hand, the 12K supports up to 52 processors, so it might not be quite optimal for a load that small…
Yeah, they did produce good product previously (under Caldera). But it look like those greedy management team might have turned the good people (programmer, engineer) inside SCO to one of the most hated group by Linux community.
Don’t Linux community have anything to be brought to court and claim something from SCO? Anybody?
NOT.. Thanks but I will stick with SuSEs Itanium offering, we are supposed to be getting our first Itanium in a week, I am excited. I will not be using anything that says SCO and I wish IBM murders them in court, One thing that gets me is that IBM hasnt tried to buy the UNIX rights from them? I hope they do because when SCO dies I want a trustworthy company to have UNIX, Lets hope Microsoft doesnt beat anyone to the punch.
please let me know if i have the wrong outlook on this, but doesnt it see just a bit two faced of SCO to tout this news at the current time. One minute, they are suing IBM since IBM had to have improperly used the UNIX code to make make Linux more “enterprise ready”. from there whole law suit, there’s no way IBM (who on top of AIX has atleast two other heavy OS’s, 390 and as400) or the linux comunity could have made the nessary changes. the next minute, they are shouting “hey! look at our new Linux distro… isnt it sweet”.
SCO has no grounds… Their lawsuit threatens alot more then just IBM. Their lawsuit threatens to harm Linux as a project. Also, SCO’s historical ties to Microsoft really makes me wonder if there is an alternate motive here. SCO has no right to attack a project that has been open source since day 1. Linux is original, in code anyway. There may be some similarities in the way it functions or in services that run on Linux, but that can be said about any operating system. Also, the fact that they have not enforced their “itellectual property” for so long means that they don’t have a legal leg to stand on. Each developer of the Linux kernel and services that run on Linux retain the copyright to their code. In other words their is no one owner of what is generically called “Linux” (I just hope the courts recognize this). SCO should go crawl in a corner and go away. IBM has done way more for the Linux project then SCO ever has. Also, I really don’t think IBM has done anything wrong. If they are going to sue IBM they are going to have to sue every developer of the “Linux” project and every other producer of Unix variants that doesn’t still pay them royalties. The only reason I see that they are going after IBM is for money. They think they found a loophole and they are going to try to take IBM for all they are worth. Fortunately IBM is bigger than them and will easily crush them. Actually, now that I think about it, IBM could really easily get rid of this problem by just buying them out, then again, thats probably what SCO wants…. bahhh… screw it… I wish they just went away…
As expected, as usual, as what happened previously, the super Mario came to back up SCO. Well that is his right. However it is our right too not to use SCO products. And it should give no harm to SCO if it is good enough as proclaimed by him. Then GOOD LUCK SCO, however for me GOOD BY SCO. I can do nothing on the installed SCO at my office but I am sure enough not to recommend any of it’s product in the future.
I think SCO’s survival is a must. Their Unix scalability work is badly needed in light of the upcoming Windows 2003 server. I hope they win their suit against IBM, because IBM clearly stole their work on SMP, etc and put it in the IBM Linux (SCO Linux OpenServer was the first Linux with SMP, AFAIK).
If you have any conclusive evidence I am sure that SCO would love to have it.
I wouldn’t say “clearly stole,” nor would I say SCO’s bad publicity wasn’t something they shoulda expected. It’ll be interesting to see how a new product does at this point in time.
Not that I’m saying shame on SCO or anything A company like many another.
SCO will lose the lawsuit because it has no concrete proof that IBM stole anything, and SMP was implemented in Linux long before IBM got involved. SCO has alot to prove, I wouldnt buy SCOs product because A) I do not like people that try to take advantage of anyone else, B) I dont use Linux for anything, My Windows 2000 Advanced Server beats Linux in so many ways and Windows is the future. Linux right now is like Windows 3.0. But if I had to go Linux and use Linux I would use Red Hat.
I think I speak for the majority when I tell SCO where to go, and how to get there.
SCO will loose simply because IBM has several more billions lying around and will just bleed SCO to death.
Oh. Sorry, I forgot I was reffering to SCO. Change that ‘billions’ to ‘hundreds’.
Please do not feed the trolls, thank you.
Its not like i am against linux i personaly love linux even though i use windows as my main desktop. Either way SCO will die i tried their products and found that its nothing more than a bunch of other people’s work put together like in many other linux distributions except other distributions inovate instead of using someone elses work. By persuing this pointless lawsuit they are putting linux community at risk. The exact people that made them for what and who they are. Also, if SCO dies many of their patents will probably wind up in IBM’s or Microsofts hands which in my belief is a bad thing. If it was a company that would care about its individuals who created it and use it, SCO would drop this lawsuit and persue a more beneficial solution. Either way their products, which of course i have tested for many years, have never even come close to what others have to offer and that is the reason why they will not succede.
It is funny. We used to refer to SCO as “System Crashes Often”.
I hope that IBM puts them down and out for good. I have never had any good dealings with them.
so yeah…. anyone know anything about the mentioned product itself?
SCO sold out people who volunteer their time selflessly who make something that is light years ahead of what Microsoft can turn out although they spend billions on buying out the competition. Maybe if they spent a few dollars trying to create something that works instead of stealing and corrupting, then maybe somone who isn’t a fool will use their products for serious work.
Kill it! Kill it! Kill it!
SCO doesn’t deserve to make news.
After all, Itanium is soooo popular, and Intel has sold sooooo many CPUs to OEMs that have sold sooooo many systems. And everybody loves scoooooo.
hah, SCO sucks. im sorry. i don’t like saying stuff like this, but SCO should die. Go back to Caldera. SCO has just screwed themselves. anyways….
who cares?
SCO Linux 4.0 (using Intel’s compilers) was the operating system used by the Unisys ES7000 Aries 130 Server that just had its SPECfp Rate scores posted.
http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2003q2/cpu2000-20030317-0198…
16-way Itanium 2 @ 1000Mhz has a SPECfp rate peak of 181, which is quite good. Slightly faster than Sun’s 16xUltraSPARC III @ 1200Mhz UE12K submission also this quarter. On the other hand, the 12K supports up to 52 processors, so it might not be quite optimal for a load that small…
Sincerely yours,
Jeffrey Boulier
Trying to make money off of the business they try to kill.
Why use this when SCO have shown that they don’t care about Linux or free software? I think they should be boycotted:
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forums&fil…
Other Linux distros, like SuSE, already support Itanium. yawn..
Yeah, they did produce good product previously (under Caldera). But it look like those greedy management team might have turned the good people (programmer, engineer) inside SCO to one of the most hated group by Linux community.
Don’t Linux community have anything to be brought to court and claim something from SCO? Anybody?
Thanks
NOT.. Thanks but I will stick with SuSEs Itanium offering, we are supposed to be getting our first Itanium in a week, I am excited. I will not be using anything that says SCO and I wish IBM murders them in court, One thing that gets me is that IBM hasnt tried to buy the UNIX rights from them? I hope they do because when SCO dies I want a trustworthy company to have UNIX, Lets hope Microsoft doesnt beat anyone to the punch.
Im sure they do buddy, and I hate to tell you, the crap is going to hit the fan and its going to be very messy. SCO deserves everyting they get.
please let me know if i have the wrong outlook on this, but doesnt it see just a bit two faced of SCO to tout this news at the current time. One minute, they are suing IBM since IBM had to have improperly used the UNIX code to make make Linux more “enterprise ready”. from there whole law suit, there’s no way IBM (who on top of AIX has atleast two other heavy OS’s, 390 and as400) or the linux comunity could have made the nessary changes. the next minute, they are shouting “hey! look at our new Linux distro… isnt it sweet”.
SCO has no grounds… Their lawsuit threatens alot more then just IBM. Their lawsuit threatens to harm Linux as a project. Also, SCO’s historical ties to Microsoft really makes me wonder if there is an alternate motive here. SCO has no right to attack a project that has been open source since day 1. Linux is original, in code anyway. There may be some similarities in the way it functions or in services that run on Linux, but that can be said about any operating system. Also, the fact that they have not enforced their “itellectual property” for so long means that they don’t have a legal leg to stand on. Each developer of the Linux kernel and services that run on Linux retain the copyright to their code. In other words their is no one owner of what is generically called “Linux” (I just hope the courts recognize this). SCO should go crawl in a corner and go away. IBM has done way more for the Linux project then SCO ever has. Also, I really don’t think IBM has done anything wrong. If they are going to sue IBM they are going to have to sue every developer of the “Linux” project and every other producer of Unix variants that doesn’t still pay them royalties. The only reason I see that they are going after IBM is for money. They think they found a loophole and they are going to try to take IBM for all they are worth. Fortunately IBM is bigger than them and will easily crush them. Actually, now that I think about it, IBM could really easily get rid of this problem by just buying them out, then again, thats probably what SCO wants…. bahhh… screw it… I wish they just went away…
Hail Linux… Hail Linux… Hail Linux…
🙂
IBM don’t even make linux, how can they put SMP in it? Infact, IBM don’t even sell linux! They only sell support for linux.
Now things would get really interesting if MS bought SCO and ended up with the IP rights to unix.
I can hear McNealy squealing now …
http://www.caldera.com/developers/community/contrib/
Then turned around and screwed them.
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You’d need to open your eyes first.
http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/20944.html
http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=235
http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1024&lang=en
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6120
The list is enormous, but this should help get you started.
Still no real evidence of what you said.
How could you, it’s only right there in front of you. If you don’t want to believe it, hey who cares.
As expected, as usual, as what happened previously, the super Mario came to back up SCO. Well that is his right. However it is our right too not to use SCO products. And it should give no harm to SCO if it is good enough as proclaimed by him. Then GOOD LUCK SCO, however for me GOOD BY SCO. I can do nothing on the installed SCO at my office but I am sure enough not to recommend any of it’s product in the future.
Let me clarify a little something to you: I will say whatever the heck I please to, regardless whether you like it or not.
Happy Easter.