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Pushing out solutions on the market all the time with the holy goal to crush microsoft. What can we expect when that is done?
IBM monopoly… geez, I’ve heard scary stories about those days…
That’s really not the issue here since they’re just offering products for an open platform (Linux.) The fact that the platform is open should make all the difference and prevent monopolies of Microsoftian proportions.
The geeks will start hating IBM and move on to the next company that takes on Big Blue. It’s a never ending process, they like the company that’s helping their cause until it becomes to big.
Perfectly said Justin Sane!
Back in the ’80s IBM was the big devil. Today, is Microsoft. Many people are now even against Red hat just because it is the biggest Linux distributor.
It is indeed a never ending process. People will always hate the No1.
if they can convince the world to buy open-source that requires hefty hardware – they win.
if microsoft can convince the world to buy their next generation source which requires hefty hardware – they win.
Personally I don’t hate Microsoft but I understand who does, and I think it’s because their unfair, and sometimes unlawful, business practices.
Why, by the hell, must someone hate the #1 just because he/she/it is the #1? We hate when them abuse of their position, and if they do if frequently, we will hate them also.
Back to the subject, I wish long life to Big Blue. Many of the criticisms that can be applied to many big companies just don’t apply to them. Of course, they are always trying to be the best and biggest, but I don’t see it as a fault but as a quality. And to people that complain about IBM just using Open Source Community to make money well, many of us are doing the same helping small business companies that could not afford to pay their eyes in servers and DB serves to improve our income, but just in a lower order of magnitude, and collaborating to improve one project or another as they do, but again the same happen, they put a lot of time and money more then some of us.
Strategically speaking is also very important to have some good and snap OS that you can customize for your needs. As I see this, it’s one kind of symbiosis synergy.
Also, I don’t know about anything that Microsoft contributed to the Open Source Community, and Big Blue did.
IBM is apparently not too concerned with SCO’s little publicity stock pump and dump scheme.
We hate when them abuse of their position, and if they do if frequently, we will hate them also. Back to the subject, I wish long life to Big Blue.
Too young to remember IBM’s 30+ years of anti-trust trials, apparently…
‘Magic’ Screwdriver anyone? <grins>
Honestly I think it’s more involved than that. There are plenty of reasons to treat Microsoft (specifically) with disdain other than their size, although their size enables their disreputable business practises. Redhat on the other hand I just don’t understand why anyone would oppose (for moral reasons). They have gone out of their way to be helpful and contribute to the OS community and software world in general in ways that even their peers have not (SuSE and Mandrake for example). There is absolutely nothing in their business practises which could be interpreted as manipulative or dishonest. I don’t use their distro, but as a company I have nothing but respect for them myself. They have even shown the utmost respect of others IP, while freely sharing their own. I consider them to be a corporate paragon in the IP world, regardless of their size.
IBM has been quite evil in the past, I heard stories about it from older coworkers who had lived through it. But they aren’t employing such practises now, and that’s fine. The company has changed dramatically, hopefully, Microsoft will too one day. And equally hopefully, Redhat will not.
Erik
Why, by the hell, must someone hate the #1 just because he/she/it is the #1?
You might wish to research game theory.
Thats why they where accepted back. Microsoft pretends to change but doesn’t really, people are not fooled and don’t accept them.
People can believe that IBM could be evil in the future because they displayed that in the past.
Anxiety and Faith have one thing in common, they both require you to believe in a future event that you cannot see.
Comment about faith was unnecessary and a potential flame bait, hence this little spark…
Do you have faith or anxiety about what IBM is doing or going to do? I get anxiety about what Microsoft does but faith about what IBM is doing.
between being a monopoly and, being a monopoly and screwing around in politics and other aspects outside the “realms” of business.
I have NO issues with Microsoft. I run Microsoft Office X. Microsoft got to their size because people like YOU chose to go down the IBM/DOS route instead of the Apple Mac, Atari or Amiga route which was on offer.
If these whingers, whiners and complainers want someone to blame, they can CLEARLY blame themselves for creating the thing they despise so much.
You believed and bought into the hype. You made Microsoft the size it is today. The only people who have the right to complain are people like ME to NEVER propped up Microsoft in its 20 years of existance.
However, since I don’t have an axe to grind over Microsoft, I won’t.
Btw, Microsoft licensed SCO intellectual property so that they could replace many parts of their UNIX migration kit which are licensed under GPL. That was the motivation, not some “axis of evil” or “triangle of terror” as some people would love to conjour up in their wild imagination.
> Back in the ’80s IBM was the big devil. Today, is Microsoft.
> Many people are now even against Red hat just because it is
> the biggest Linux distributor.
> It is indeed a never ending process. People will always hate
> the No1.
IBM DID have bad tactics in the past. They did want to lock up the PC for them selves. (MCI? bus) It didn’t work and they learned. Now them focusing on an open forum (Linux), that is what the GPL is for…
> IBM has been quite evil in the past, I heard stories about
> it from older coworkers who had lived through it. But they
> aren’t employing such practises now, and that’s fine. The
> company has changed dramatically, hopefully, Microsoft
> will too one day. And equally hopefully, Redhat will not.
WELL SAID!
Anxiety and Faith have one thing in common, they both require you to believe in a future event that you cannot see.
That is a very wise statement. I’m glad I was here to witness it.
Comment about faith was unnecessary and a potential flame bait, hence this little spark…
Why? It’s true and it is applicable to the discussion.
CooCooCaChoo, you seem to have a disturbed view of history which I feel that I must set straight. People did not really choose to buy IBM PCs with MS OS’s on them, they were almost forced to by the errant buisness practices of their competitors. Apple didn’t make a box people could afford, Next was even worse, IBM never put enough emphasis into OS/2 to make it work, and Be was just too late in the game; so the only viable option left was windows+PC. Please do not blame innocent people for the fault of companies who were unable or unwilling to compete.
Skipp
“Why, by the hell, must someone hate the #1 just because he/she/it is the #1? We hate when them abuse of their position, and if they do if frequently, we will hate them also.”
Exactly. I don’t remember anyone hating Kodak when they had a similar monopoly of photographic products. The difference is that Kodak products were of very high quality.
One of the objections to the Microsoft monopoly is that people feel they are being forced to buy and use a shoddy product.
CooCooCaChoo, you seem to have a disturbed view of history which I feel that I must set straight. People did not really choose to buy IBM PCs with MS OS’s on them, they were almost forced to by the errant buisness practices of their competitors. Apple didn’t make a box people could afford, Next was even worse, IBM never put enough emphasis into OS/2 to make it work, and Be was just too late in the game; so the only viable option left was windows+PC. Please do not blame innocent people for the fault of companies who were unable or unwilling to compete.
Bullshit. 20 years ago there was CHOICE, and YOU chose to buy a PC over an Apple, Amiga or Atari.
When MSDOS PCs were being developed, was their an alternative operating system? no. Plain and simple. These people who whinge today, like yourself, HAD the choice NOT to buy a PC, you CHOSE to buy a PC.
I chose to buy an Amiga, and unlike you, I DIDN’T contribute to the rise of Microsoft. Everyone one here who has on the last 20 years usedd a PC pre-loaded with Windows/MSDOS only have themselves to blame for Microsofts size and influence over the industry.
Does or will IBM offer a full Lotus Notes client for Linux? The article said:
IBM is also extending Linux support for Lotus software on the client and server. Its iNotes Web access product has been renamed Domino Web Access and will now support the Mozilla browser running on Linux or Windows.
But I take it this is not the Lotus Notes client I run at work.